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  1. #21
    glad is for 2.4 since bfa + its acc wide (sl) so u basically fight vs boosted glads/alts at 1700

    i dont see any difference between 1.7 and 2k so i guess if u practice how to play ur setup and how to set up kills ull get some rating

    maybe ur class/setup is not that great in 2s?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    This is 100% true. This is shadowlands main arena problem.

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    Jesus dude.. just leave this thread already, idiot.
    Yes, me the guy, stuck at 1700 rating, after 1000 games played blaming a few games against boosters on my inability. Me, the idiot.

    Seriously.
    Last edited by tikcol; 2021-04-19 at 05:39 PM.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Starting by the first guy that doesn't see through the bullshit. There's no such thing as 1700 rating players being stuck there for 1000 games if that's not their deserved rating. That's what people in denial tell themselves to feel better and by the looks of it there's a bunch of them right here
    i like your stupidity level. i really do. here's why :

    what you are saying is right. his skill level is most probably 1700 max and that is fine. now read below carefully you absolute bag of shit.

    what he is asking is, why is he facing people who are way above his rating.

    simple, right ?

    i mean, how daft one must be to be as empty as you is beyond me.

    here, i am typing it again in case you missed it the second time : why is he facing r1 people at 1700 rating ?

    how about now ?
    war does not determine who is right, only who is left.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntermyth View Post
    i like your stupidity level. i really do. here's why :

    what you are saying is right. his skill level is most probably 1700 max and that is fine. now read below carefully you absolute bag of shit.

    what he is asking is, why is he facing people who are way above his rating.

    simple, right ?

    i mean, how daft one must be to be as empty as you is beyond me.

    here, i am typing it again in case you missed it the second time : why is he facing r1 people at 1700 rating ?

    how about now ?
    Good lord you are an angry person XD

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeymootwo View Post
    Good lord you are an angry person XD
    i can't stand stupidity.
    war does not determine who is right, only who is left.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntermyth View Post
    i like your stupidity level. i really do. here's why :

    what you are saying is right. his skill level is most probably 1700 max and that is fine. now read below carefully you absolute bag of shit.

    what he is asking is, why is he facing people who are way above his rating.

    simple, right ?

    i mean, how daft one must be to be as empty as you is beyond me.

    here, i am typing it again in case you missed it the second time : why is he facing r1 people at 1700 rating ?

    how about now ?
    Is he though? I'm not apart from the very few exceptions where it's obviously some boosting going on and the MMR averages to my own but this has been a thing since ever, and I mean, ever.

    Everyone is on the same playing field. You're not special. If you can't get past 1700 rating after 1000 games then that's nobody else's responsibility

    Did you find this out today?
    Last edited by tikcol; 2021-04-19 at 05:52 PM.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Is he though? I'm not apart from the very few exceptions where it's obviously some boosting going on and the MMR averages to my own but this has been a thing since ever, and I mean, ever.

    Did you find this out today?
    how should i know if they are constantly facing r1 players ?

    i am only replying to what they wrote, not putting words in their mouth or coming to assumptions based on my subjective experience.

    as in the famous saying, common sense is not that common eh ?
    war does not determine who is right, only who is left.

  8. #28
    Am I playing a different game? When I hop on my alts that are 1600-1700 I don't see glads/boosters in 50% of my games, sure they happen here and there, but usually they are not that much harder than other games on that MMR, because one shit player can be very easily exploited, which is most apparent when you see Elite (btw, as mentioned aboce glad titles means high rating in last season + its account wide, so it doesn't always mean you deal with exceptional player, Elite *class* is much better indication, as that means that person has 2400 in this season, so 227 ilvl most likely).

    Same goes for people with gear outside their bracket (like you are playing 1700 mmr and face people in duelist gear), it doesn't immediately means they are some 2100+ player material, as this gear can be achived in RBGs BY ANYONE. High hp might also mean a lot of pve gear (which again is usually lower on versa so that doesn't always mean better gear).

    I kinda feel like people complaining about being destroyed by boosters in arena miss all these facts and just found something they can easily blame when they lose. It's much more comforting that you are losing to boosters when in reality you are hardstuck at 1700 (sorry, 1k games at this rating means you are hardstuck) than to admit you need to get better to progress.

    With all that said, I think that current gearing progression in pvp is bad, simply because good players getting more gear means that as the season progresses it's just harder and harder to break into next gear bracket, as you get walled off by people who already got their gear from other brackets or dropped. That's why I'm hoping next season PVP vault will give you items from one tier higher bracket (so if you are hardstuck at 1700, you get piece of Rival gear every week, so you don't feel hopelessly stuck and eventually can get enough gear to get out of your elo hell).

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntermyth View Post

    i am only replying to what they wrote, not putting words in their mouth
    Except your whole participation in this thread is calling me a moron and getting all angry about it.. Yep, that was all.

  10. #30
    2v2 = booster bracket
    3v3 = real bracket

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Yes, me the guy, stuck at 1700 rating, after 1000 games played blaming a few games against boosters on my inability. Me, the idiot.

    Seriously.
    The point of the thread is flying over your head.

    So yes, you are the idiot for calling him out about being stuck at 1700, when hes clearly talking about the general matchmaking that is flawed and I agree to that, cus it is.
    Last edited by Alanar; 2021-04-19 at 06:17 PM.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    The point of the thread is flying over your head.
    There's no point to this thread. This has been a thing since season 1 TBC. MMR averages out

    It isn't flawed, it's working as intended as it ever was and hopefully ever will.
    Last edited by tikcol; 2021-04-19 at 06:18 PM.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    There's no point to this thread. This has been a thing since season 1 TBC. MMR averages out

    It isn't flawed, it's working as intended as it ever was and hopefully ever will.
    I edited it, because its not clear to you. Not my problem.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    I edited it, because its not clear to you. Not my problem.
    Do you know how MMR works? Because clearly you don't.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Do you know how MMR works? Because clearly you don't.
    What are you even trying to say here?

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    What are you even trying to say here?
    I was trying to discern whether or not you had any idea how the ladder works and how meeting high ranked players at 1700 rating was normal. It is under very specific conditions.

    It happens since season 1 in tbc, it works as intended and there's nothing wrong with it.

  17. #37
    Doesn't matter. Alot of them suck and are boosted or old titles. Specially arena master.

    If your stuck at 1700 it's your skill. If your playing with a healer it's a cake walk until 2100.


    Double dps doesn't get more skilled until like 1900.

    And this was a bit before the inflation. So you can make those even higher.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurathansal View Post
    I played 1000+ matches in 2v2 in the last 3 months.
    1. GEAR IMBALANCE IN PVP => gladiators selling boosts, no surprise here

    2. GEAR IMABALANCE FIXED NEXT CONTENT PATCH, PVP IS AGAIN DUMPSTER TIER FOR ILVL => NO REASON FOR YOU TO ENDURE PVP


    PVP gets the leats amounts of balance and progressing with rating is not controlled by blizzard. If the community is selling boosts for gear, you get the current situation where your progression ends because the 3k ranked players dont lose the MMR advantage just because the CR goes down.

    And btw. if you did not know, MMR is not resetted mid expansion and not allways between most expansions. The same people with 50% win rate against you will see 2.2k rating the first week and you will still hunt for 1.8k - with the same win rate, same amount of games played.

    PVP is a stupid minigame and blizzard does not care that much about it to make it not a waste of time. Without the gearbullshit in SL you would have seen some awfull long queue times with this dead minigame.
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  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    I was trying to discern whether or not you had any idea how the ladder works and how meeting high ranked players at 1700 rating was normal. It is under very specific conditions.

    It happens since season 1 in tbc, it works as intended and there's nothing wrong with it.
    Its obviously a stupid system when you are 1600 range and you are constantly fighting gladiators or 2300 people.

    Are we purely talking about boosters here?

    We have seen this before, but I realy dont remember it being this rediculous and I cant comment on bc, my mind is way to foggy for that.

    When we are talking about doing 2s and facing double 2300 rating guys then yes then the system is bad.

    I called you out, because yes you were the first comment which are usually stupid or just plain irrelevant and it wasnt realy about hes rating in general.

    I mean..
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurathansal View Post
    .
    Yes, I have major improvements to do on my game, but I should be facing off against players of my rating, not boosts, and not teams with double glad/R1 at these ratings (why???).

    So this is just a rant to share, maybe some of you out there are having the same problem. Blizz really needs to fix the current problem with boosting on 2v2 (and RBG's).
    He even says he needs improvements what else you want to hear from him. No need kick him down.
    Last edited by Alanar; 2021-04-19 at 06:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Seems like there's a lot of people stuck at low ratings while blaming the system in this thread.
    People just hate to be faced with a rated system that is not a progression system. The rating reflects your current status, period. You can't just grind it to increase, you have to get better.

    Sure a lack of skill and/or gear makes it harder to "climb" to your right place in the ladder when starting from 0. But it doesn't make it impossible. That's just a fact.
    If you are "hard stuck" you just are where you belong. As arsh as you don't want to hear it.
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