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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    I think it's important to remind ourselves that this is a .1 patch and adequate comparisons should refer to other .1 patches. Because it is a new zone people instinctively compare it to other zone patches like .2 and .3 patches, which makes this one feel underwhelming, but when comparing it to other .1 patches it's perfectly fine and even better than a lot of them.
    It's pretty cool for a .1 patch, yes. But normally this late into an expansion people have way more than a very good .1 patch to enjoy.

    If you aren't one of them, cool. More power to you. Enjoy yourself. But don't act surprised that others don't. Their perspective is equally valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Yes they have though, ff14 literally had one of its patches delayed because of it dude. as have pretty much all games been delayed because of it. atleast AAA as those were effected by it.
    and working from home is no where near as easy.
    also yeah the wildfires too.

    also it ends up costing more, especially since they also need to keep the entire campus still in shape, they cant just sell it or let it run down while everyones gone.
    And yet, FF14 came out with their 5.5 patch last week and part 2 comes out next month to finish the Shadowbringers expansion story completely next month and Path of Exile came out with their Ultimatum patch last week. WoW hasn't even put out the first major patch since it launches which is really just sad and reason most quit cause it's taking way too long and with all the reports out there, Activision seems to be focused more on other games since they keep shuffling workers to other games and Blizzard is just losing all of it's employees they used to have.

    Players like me have watched Blizzard slowly but surely be dismantled and Warcraft slowly just lose steam. I think it's time WoW comes to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    It's pretty cool for a .1 patch, yes. But normally this late into an expansion people have way more than a very good .1 patch to enjoy.

    If you aren't one of them, cool. More power to you. Enjoy yourself. But don't act surprised that others don't. Their perspective is equally valid.
    It is, I have nothing against that. My post made no contention with that frustration, which is understandable, I was only speaking to the comparisons to Nazjatar and other .2 or .3 zones. That specific comparison I don't think is valid. The resentment towards the fact that at this point in other expansions there was more to do is valid. Though, from my own perspective, which no one in obliged to adhere to, I do have some understanding considering the global obstacles that have been slowing development down everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    The other .1 patches also didn't come out 7 months after the expansion's release, that's if the PTR goes perfectly.
    Yes that's true. But that's a different grievance, still doesn't justify the comparison. I do have a hard time putting it all on blizzard with a pandemic slowing down everything. but that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    TIL I'm apparently no one.
    evidently

    success comes in the form of technical solutions to problems, not appeals to our emotional side

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    There's one shot in there that looks like it's straight up taken from Ardenweald due to the Fae symbols and actual Fae in the picture.

    https://media.mmo-champion.com/image...apreview04.jpg

    It very much looks like a dark and dreary, Maw-like version of Ardenweald.
    hey wanna hear something fucking funny?
    All 4 of the covenants come with you to korthia
    and set up a little covenant "station" like that...
    so does that make it look like bastion too? or revendreth? or maldraxxus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    It is, I have nothing against that. My post made no contention with that frustration, which is understandable, I was only speaking to the comparisons to Nazjatar and other .2 or .3 zones. That specific comparison I don't think is valid. The resentment towards the fact that at this point in other expansions there was more to do is valid. Though, from my own perspective, which no one in obliged to adhere to, I do have some understanding considering the global obstacles that have been slowing development down everywhere.

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    Yes that's true. But that's a different grievance, still doesn't justify the comparison. I do have a hard time putting it all on blizzard with a pandemic slowing down everything. but that's just my opinion.
    It all depends on when 9.1 will actually release. Granted when viewed in a vacuum 9.1 might still rank favorably to other .1 patches (although it depends on how many casual content is added) but I do believe that every person has a cap regarding how long of a delay they are willing to accept, with covid and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    hey wanna hear something fucking funny?
    All 4 of the covenants come with you to korthia
    and set up a little covenant "station" like that...
    so does that make it look like bastion too? or revendreth? or maldraxxus?
    Ok, fair point, I didn't think about that and feel a bit dumb about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanoDruid View Post
    Looks very depressing.

    Adding such zones is not a way to design a successful patch. If that zone will become the main content for 6 months, with maw being second major zone, expect big loss of subscribers.
    I expect to see this in the next QR.

    "Thanks exclusively to an incredibly prescient prediction from a random person on the fan website MMO-Champion.com's forums, we have surmised that our content did meet this single players' completely arbitrary standards for approval and as such we have lost 13 billion subscribers in the last 3 months. Bobby Kotick will be shaving his head out of shame."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegresse View Post
    path of exile came out with their Ultimatum patch last week.
    Path is exile is a really bad example as they delayed there POE2 Beta by another year last month. There pretty much in the same boat as blizzard.

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    whatever the jailer is searching there i hope it brings him his own undoing knowing the power of those he call "The First Ones" as consequencess for his further violations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegresse View Post
    I think it's time WoW comes to an end.
    Have you tried to ask to speak with Blizzard's manager? I'm sure they'd love to hear your super interesting opinion.

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    Surprised no one has mentioned that they are happy the Eye of the Jailer system is being removed with the questline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dess View Post
    Looks just like arwendel.
    Exactly. I hate it when they copy zones from other games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tru View Post
    A less dark maw?... /Yawn

    Thanks for making it easy to stay unsubed
    How does that look similar to the maw, please explain?
    It is in no way, shape, or form even close to the maw gameplay either.

    You are just here to shittalk on a whim, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    Ok, fair point, I didn't think about that and feel a bit dumb about it.
    yeah, why i said mmochamp did a horrid job at actually showing what the zone looks like as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    Surprised no one has mentioned that they are happy the Eye of the Jailer system is being removed with the questline.
    most likely cause the thread this is in says nothing about it at all, it just has screenshots of the zone.
    but yeah the eye is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    most likely cause the thread this is in says nothing about it at all, it just has screenshots of the zone.
    but yeah the eye is gone.
    We'll just ignore my inability to click on the right thread and being half asleep while posting lol.

    Thought I clicked on the one talking about it, but apparently didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    well of course not, this is .1 patch not a .3 patch...
    compare it more so to... have we had any new zones in .1 patches?

    Only one i can think of is 5.1 had the slight rework to krasarang wilds, adding those 2 new towns.

    yeah no .1 patch has had a new zone.
    My bad for wording that wrong. Only meant visually.

    Argus (besides the fel parts) was a pretty vibrant and beautiful place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Proton View Post
    You called people sad and toxic for having a different opinion. The only toxic person up to that point was you. No one was screaming, and showing your dislike of something isn't vitriol. Get over your opinion and realize other people have the same right to express theirs.
    I didn't call anyone toxic first off. I'm defending what someone else said. It most certainly was not "a different opinion". You can say "Well I would have liked more stuff" or "I don't like the aesthetic of the zone" instead of what was said like "Looks like <expletive>". How about you understand the difference between having an opinion and being toxic before you go and mouth off at someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohwell View Post
    I didn't call anyone toxic first off. I'm defending what someone else said. It most certainly was not "a different opinion". You can say "Well I would have liked more stuff" or "I don't like the aesthetic of the zone" instead of what was said like "Looks like <expletive>". How about you understand the difference between having an opinion and being toxic before you go and mouth off at someone.
    Your words...
    yall are sad with your absolutely toxic and pessimistic opinions, try liking things for once -- it feels nice
    You know we can look up what you said? You absolutely called people toxic lol. And "Looks like shit" is an opinion. How about you stop being toxic and realize people can look up what you've said LOL. And maybe learn what an opinion is while you're at it.

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    hmm, really not sure if this works out for a patch, that will stay for 1/2 to 3/4 year. i assume next bigger stuff we see for wow in 9.2 will be xmas 21 or later. hmm, looks very „low cost mode“ to me. not „WoD mode“, but... hmm not very hyped tbh. but we will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanoDruid View Post
    Looks very depressing.

    Adding such zones is not a way to design a successful patch. If that zone will become the main content for 6 months, with maw being second major zone, expect big loss of subscribers.
    could be true, in conjunction with the overall state of the game. i am curious how this works out, 2 months after patch release. it dont have to fail. but i would not bet my last shirt on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Path is exile is a really bad example as they delayed there POE2 Beta by another year last month. There pretty much in the same boat as blizzard.
    Hardly. PoE may have delayed the PoE2 Beta but of course in the end, all it is is a sequel that just adds on to PoE base game anyway so there's no big loss there and in the time that Activision has taken just to finally put out it's 1st big patch for SL, PoE has put out at least 2 or 3 major content patches on a regular basis keeping players engaged in a game. Of course, it's no surprise when GGG was created by some of Blizzard's former employees and make a good game.

    Quote Originally Posted by otaXephon View Post
    Have you tried to ask to speak with Blizzard's manager? I'm sure they'd love to hear your super interesting opinion.
    Clearly, Activision doesn't listen to players' opinions cause so many like me quit wow. Your question really does prove the point that many have pointed out that they don't listen because if they did, they wouldn't have left a lot of these systems like "adventures" in the game that many players told them they didn't want. Anyone that defends them really are new players who don't see how bad WoW went downhill after Lich King ended. WoW will end soon enough as do all games after so long.

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