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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Smeeh View Post
    So he's the CEO of a huge company, they fire people, it sucks but its part of the deal. He never received a "pay check" he got stocks worth a lot, a deal he made with the board some 4 years or whatever ago, when the companies stock was worth much less. It's beyond stupid how much he got but its not like he went "i fired people now give me a sack full of cash". I don't like the man, i would much prefer someone else in charge, but the amount of hate whenever he does anything is stupid and its getting tiresome. He literally gets less money now than before and people are mad about it. It's pretty much a PR thing, but its something.
    Keep digging your grave buddy, you are beyond pathetic at this point and your breath smells from Bobby's shit
    But i would like to correct myself... no, you are not equal to those murderer wifes and baby killers. You are worst


    Infracted.
    Last edited by xskarma; 2021-04-30 at 07:54 PM.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    He hasn't failed to meet expectations though, over the past 20 years he's made absolutely buckets of cash for the company and its investors. When he took over the company in 1990 it was on its arse, hence him and fellow investors snapping it up for half a mil.
    Yeah this is what these idiot pitchfork people dont get, his success made those jobs to begin with. Him being good at his job and causing growth of the company created more jobs that helped people out.

    Even when they got laid off they got some nice severance packages to help them out.

    But this is what happens when you have a generation of kids who grew up being told they are special when they arent, they are just resentful of those who worked hard to get where they are. You can see it in their language, "He doesnt even do anything".

    Like if his job is so easy, why arent these keyboard warriors out there becoming CEOs and being the benevolent types? Put yourself in that position, run a company, take a minimal salary with no bonuses or incentives to be successful. Like its said, "Be the change you want to see in the world" Cause if you're just telling other people how they should live their lives? You need to shut it.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Gadzooks View Post
    This is an incredibly naive comment, I'm not saying that to just insult, you clearly do not understand how anything works in the corporate world, and are making statements based on what has to be a sheer misunderstanding of the words you're using.

    "The system' doesn't exist. ATVI is a publicly owned corporation, and the pay of the officers of the corporation are set by the board, and not by some mythical 'system", there are no external forces or laws or regulations that direct and impose corporate pay and bonuses. And yet you blame 'capitalism" for them setting their own pay levels, when capitalism is simply a description of an economic system - blaming Kotick's greed and exorbitant payoff on capitalism is laughable, because isn't caused by capitalism, it's an abuse of capitalism . I don't think you understand what "capitalism" is, and you should learn, because educating yourself is always a good thing to spend your time on. Especially as the alternative to capitalism would be a monetary system like socialism or communism, where companies like Blizzard most likely wouldn't exist in the first place.

    I don't disagree that ATVI workers should be paid more, especially those working in Los Angeles and Orange County, but again, that's an abuse of capitalism by the board at ATVI, not "The System".
    Yes, and this is exactly why this is the system's fault.

    In a fair system there would be such regulations that would just downright forbid giving people bonuses that could feed every homeless person in a small size country for a month. And at the same time, there would be regulations stating how much employees of such a business should earn based on the total worth of the company.

    If this was "abuse of capitalism" then there would be checks in place to combat this kind of thing. There aren't, because that's what capitalism is all about - it's a predator and prey system, which allows the select few to gather 99% of the world's wealth for themselves while millions of people are literally starving.

    If you're criticizing Bobby Kotick and other CEOs income while at the same time defending capitalism you're a hypocrite.
    Last edited by Azerate; 2021-04-30 at 02:49 PM.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Vilendor View Post
    Keep digging your grave buddy, you are beyond pathetic at this point and your breath smells from Bobby's shit
    But i would like to correct myself... no, you are not equal to those murderer wifes and baby killers. You are worst
    I'm beginning to sense a pattern here, you have a good day and do stay mad.
    I'ts not just safe, it's 40% safe.

  5. #65
    "Bobby cuts salary by 50%"

    ZzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzz

    Next time, make it 80% from that remaining 50%, then we can talk. Dude's still ass regardless of what "money" he loses, which was all gonna go to taxes anyway, so this 50% BS doesn't feel like shit, no matter where you're from.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Guchie View Post
    Yeah this is what these idiot pitchfork people dont get, his success made those jobs to begin with. Him being good at his job and causing growth of the company created more jobs that helped people out.

    Even when they got laid off they got some nice severance packages to help them out.

    But this is what happens when you have a generation of kids who grew up being told they are special when they arent, they are just resentful of those who worked hard to get where they are. You can see it in their language, "He doesnt even do anything".

    Like if his job is so easy, why arent these keyboard warriors out there becoming CEOs and being the benevolent types? Put yourself in that position, run a company, take a minimal salary with no bonuses or incentives to be successful. Like its said, "Be the change you want to see in the world" Cause if you're just telling other people how they should live their lives? You need to shut it.

    The problem with most who make a lot of money is that they brag too much about it. No one would have known shit if only he had kept quiet about it. My motto with things is DON'T BRAG. Why tell the whole world how you make?? Who's fucking business is it to know?? People need to learn how to keep their mouth shut about stuff. People need to learn how to keep a secret. I know I do.
    People on this thread only get pissed at you when you don't agree with them...FACT

  7. #67
    Pretty dumb move imo. You're just drawing more attention to an astronomical paycheck extracted from a struggling game. As if people care about or understand the difference between 200m and 100m.

  8. #68
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    Hahaha, Bobby Kotick trying to buy the community's perception of Blizzard back (or preparing for a slightly worse quarterly report, not like those mouthbreathers buying mounts or Hearthstone pre-expansion bundles are taking a break)
    But other than those sheep? Too late Bobbyboi, it's been years since you made ActiBlizz into yet another EA Games, and everyone who once loved Blizzard knows it.
    Last edited by MasterHamster; 2021-04-30 at 06:19 PM.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggressive View Post
    The problem with most who make a lot of money is that they brag too much about it. No one would have known shit if only he had kept quiet about it. My motto with things is DON'T BRAG. Why tell the whole world how you make?? Who's fucking business is it to know?? People need to learn how to keep their mouth shut about stuff. People need to learn how to keep a secret. I know I do.
    He didn't brag. People know about it because they insist on knowing every little detail about a gaming company. Activision Blizzard filed the required SEC paperwork and that got reported on by Wowhead and then here. None of the wow fan sites reported when he donated 4 million to the University of Michigan to help start an e-sports degree. Because it doesn't drive clicks like an easy target for hate as a salary.
    "Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
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  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    He didn't brag. People know about it because they insist on knowing every little detail about a gaming company. Activision Blizzard filed the required SEC paperwork and that got reported on by Wowhead and then here. None of the wow fan sites reported when he donated 4 million to the University of Michigan to help start an e-sports degree. Because it doesn't drive clicks like an easy target for hate as a salary.
    Sounds about right social media and the stupid people who chase that shit.

    Pay no attention at all to the positive but instead let's search for anything negative that we can find. Part of the reason I despice our society so much right now. It is filled with a immense of stupid and arrogant people
    People on this thread only get pissed at you when you don't agree with them...FACT

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro123 View Post
    Actually this mean, that the people concerns about his bonus in the middle of laid offs actually concerned the CEOs of Activision/Blizzard. Well...at least they realise how bad that looks while the world is still on a Pandemic
    Are you equally concerned over how much entertainers and athletes make? Funny how those folks always get a pass, but corporate executives somehow don’t deserve any compensation for their work.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggressive View Post
    The problem with most who make a lot of money is that they brag too much about it. No one would have known shit if only he had kept quiet about it. My motto with things is DON'T BRAG. Why tell the whole world how you make?? Who's fucking business is it to know?? People need to learn how to keep their mouth shut about stuff. People need to learn how to keep a secret. I know I do.
    I'm pretty sure everything we know about Kotick's financials are released to the public for potential investors. This stuff all boils down to shareholder surveys and expectation reviews that are converted into formula based on performance projections and industry standards.

  13. #73
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    Again, y'all need to get off that Bobby Kotick Hate Train.

    Let's focus on the fact that Blizzard actually listened to players with Drums.
    We're all newbs, some are just more newbier than others.

    Just a burned out hardcore raider turned casual.
    Too late for Classic, too soon for WOTLK Classic
    Just in time to Burning Crusade Classic

  14. #74
    Why can't we all just, get along?

    Stay hydrated and check your posture.

    I love you. ❤

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by ghays View Post
    Are you equally concerned over how much entertainers and athletes make? Funny how those folks always get a pass, but corporate executives somehow don’t deserve any compensation for their work.
    That is because the payment bonus was "excessive", even in terms of bonus payments for CEOs. Read the note, it is mention there.

  16. #76
    Man social media has massaged you people into corporate bootlickers.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by SinR View Post
    Y'all need to get off that Bobby Hate Train.
    Nope. You need to stop defending people getting WAY overpaid for work that could literally be automated. His entire family is set for generations and they're still funneling MILLIONS to him every. Single. Year.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by TyrannicalPuppy View Post
    Nope. You need to stop defending people getting WAY overpaid for work that could literally be automated. His entire family is set for generations and they're still funneling MILLIONS to him every. Single. Year.
    But then you would just hate the stupid computer program that didn't do what you want. CEO's may be over paid but I doubt there is a good enough computer program that could automate all of their duties. Generational wealth isn't that hard to come by and it is easy to keep as long as it isn't squandered. There is never a point where you should be forced to work for free just because you've earned enough. That is slavery and that isn't a good way to combat the wealth gap.
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  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    But then you would just hate the stupid computer program that didn't do what you want. CEO's may be over paid but I doubt there is a good enough computer program that could automate all of their duties. Generational wealth isn't that hard to come by and it is easy to keep as long as it isn't squandered. There is never a point where you should be forced to work for free just because you've earned enough. That is slavery and that isn't a good way to combat the wealth gap.
    Did I ever say he should work for free?

    No. Work for either the minimum wage of his employees, or the maximum wage of a team leader. Take home a reasonable, humble salary that shows that he's as human as the people he employs, many of whom work much harder than he does, and that he doesn't deserve special treatment when he's already hoarding enough money that will cover everything his family needs for many generations to come and that will otherwise never go back into the economy.

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    Damn. Feel bad for Bobby. Hope he doesn't need food stamps anytime soon.

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