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    Would Warcraft benefit from a universe reset?

    Something along the lines like Crisis on Infinite Earths or Flashpoint to effectively reset lore but keep it fresh? Another rogue figure from the Bronze flight or maybe even Aman'Thul himself resets the multiverse to reset. Would it do anything or would anyone like refreshed stories?

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    no. no more time travel, no more alternate realities

    those are just cheap outs for writers who write themselves into holes, and considering we've already had both adding them back would just be the worst idea imaginable.

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    Nope. Nu-Blizzard is erasing/retconing enough of Old-Blizzard work as it is, all the while relying on the popularity this work got them.

    Rewriting all warcraft in the way they write shits now... I mean, that's basically what Chronicles is, on one hand. And we all know how badly that would go, on the other hand.

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    I am not sure a reset, but it does need a fresh slate. Maybe a time jump 100 years in the future :P

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    They never had a descent writer since vanilla. And they still don't know how to implement it ingame. What good would it do ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatToffer View Post
    Nope. Nu-Blizzard is erasing/retconing enough of Old-Blizzard work as it is, all the while relying on the popularity this work got them.

    Rewriting all warcraft in the way they write shits now... I mean, that's basically what Chronicles is, on one hand. And we all know how badly that would go, on the other hand.
    Pretty much this. They don't need a big reset button to rewrite the universe when they can just retcon the things they don't like. I can't even remember a single thing/character Blizzard's story team has created in the last 6 years or so that I actually care about. The game is so reliant on cheap nostalgia bait that a reset would probably be the worst possible thing they could do.
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    So completely waste 16 years? Fuck. No.
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    I saw a few posts about that idea but im not sure is it good way. Tbh they could wipe few things easly without time line skip. Its just all about good writing and good based story it self and strong characters. I feel like they just buried too much at start of WoW. They buring all characters and revie them again to life onyxia, naxx, nefarian, deathwing, illidan, sargeras etc. We do need something new and no more whacky reincarnations.

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    Age of Sigmar is a a good cautionary tale about not throwing decades of established lore into a bin.
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    Time jump is a better option. The progression of time allows for Old Lore to still be canon but opens up a space for New Lore in the New World so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    So completely waste 16 years? Fuck. No.
    What else do they do? They already threw most of decade+ old storylines and breadcrumb trails into the toilet. They've ran out of ideas and started making up their own things.

    Danuser's old Twitter bio used to read "I write the stories you like. Someone else wrote the other ones". Clearly he's got a thing against established lore. At this point he just needs to scrap it all entirely and execute his own visions without any restrictions holding him back.

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    Time jump would be better, and even a short one would keep things fresh on Azeroth
    for the whole cosmic disco war they wouldn't need it though
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    Universe is infinite and it's expanding itself. Eventually time will pass and new stars and planets will be born. There is no need to reset anything, it does the job for itself. But if you would like to turn back time before Sargeras done his little stunt then I'm all in.
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    Stories can be refreshed with Caverns of Time, no reason to reset the entire setting and throw all the lore in the trash bin.

    Power levels already reset arbitrarily at the start of every expac when we fight generic beasts and do normal quests anyway.

    Squishes are just a necessity of gameplay numbers feel, so if a squish is needed it doesn't have to impact the story every time. It could get exhausting if it was done like this every time.

    It's not like a general audience doesn't dislike the idea of a time reset -- WoD started out some of the highest population starts the game ever saw, and bombed for things like Garrison and Naval Yard completely unrelated to the time shenanigans. On paper, a reset like this could theoretically pull in a ton of people like WoD initially did.

    But to be completely honest, it's probably too soon to redo the time angle when WoD was still so recent. People still aren't over WoD, and hell they may never be, but until a time refresh actually feels fresh it's kind of defeating the purpose of doing this just for the sake of freshness. Especially when there are other ways to achieve the same result without resetting anything, as mentioned.

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    Time jump would be interesting. But what I would love to see with time jump, is new chars and classes. And new stories. Maybe our char could become the new jailer And we can start something new in a time jumped state, where the world is kinda similar, but still very changed, new important characters, lores, etc.

    For example, +100-200 years passed by, Yrel and the lightbound came to Azeroth, Turalyon kinda welcomed them, and we start in this light powered word, there are still some insurgent movements from groups that disliked the light taking over, but mostly light won. So we start questing, we get to hear about the old heroes who defeated the legion and deathwing and so on, there are some statues of Anduin and Jaina and Thrall and our old char, but they kinda shown as if they were mostly just doing the bidding of the light. And we also get to learn of new factions, how are some groups still fighting against the light, who are the main characters now, what happened in last years.
    Anyway, around level 20 we happen to be there when everyone finally returns from shadowlands, and we start helping them to remove the light from power.
    Well, something like this, it would be fun, for me at least

    I just think that with out current classes and characters, they just can't introduce huge new innovative ideas, we just keep getting borrowed powers, but nothing groundbreaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatToffer View Post
    Nope. Nu-Blizzard is erasing/retconing enough of Old-Blizzard work as it is, all the while relying on the popularity this work got them.

    Rewriting all warcraft in the way they write shits now... I mean, that's basically what Chronicles is, on one hand. And we all know how badly that would go, on the other hand.
    pretty much this.

    there is no saving this shitfest.
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    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Time jump is a better option. The progression of time allows for Old Lore to still be canon but opens up a space for New Lore in the New World so to speak.
    Nope thanks, I don't want a black screen with a "That's what happened during your nap" wall of text.

    I actually want to play and see the story.
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    First I think WoW should get a dev team reset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post

    I actually want to play and see the story.

    You mean like they are doing now? /s

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    They reset the fucking thing every patch.

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    With how they are handling it now? If it's completely divorced from current WoW, I would be down. They can craft the universe and it's structure with all it's Before guys and Management boards of essences however they like and I would have no problems with it. It would also allow them that 'freedom from canon' that they desire and that they feel 'restrict' them from doing anything interesting by giving them their blank slate to create things in their own image.
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