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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodmoth13 View Post
    Dont use it.
    But having the top end players still playing the game allows progressing players opportunities to enter higher levels.
    Basically if the top 50 people got all the stuff they want in one shot they would drop out because they want. The 51st player wouldnt have anyone to play with at that point other than people below him.
    Players will come and go, grouping them together helps the community, which is why content gates can be a good thing.

    That sort of stuff did happen though in legion where mythic keys were rarer so it was worth boosting a lower level player for a chance at more gear.
    I mean it didn't they were still around mythic guilds rarely go dormant since its even rarer they come pack next patch. You might not see them because they stick to their own but they dont just vanish

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Drusin View Post
    Because you enjoy playing
    that's just a pipe dream.

    Most people lose motivation & will to play the very second the "Carrot" disappears or they reach their "Goal"

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  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by testsubjectzz View Post
    Some people just forget to enjoy wow. I was looking at my guild today just to see how many were tagged raider. So many have been offline for weeks to months. These were the guys pushing high m+ keys and raided at the highest level. They just burnt themselves out.

    Come to think of it, I don't really enjoy wow at all either. I have my KSM, I have my CE, I just logon to see if I can get into a heroic and parse.
    Yeah,a LOT of players are really just addicted more than they enjoy the game. And if they ever stumble upon a bit of fun,they'll do their best to optimise and minmax the fun out.

    I'll always remember how in Classic WoW,several people I knew were doing that thing in Alterac where they just rushed games over and over again to get optimal honor gains. None of them enjoyed doing that,several of them were also genuinely looking forward to going back to the old days of several hours long Alterac matches....But because the unfun,quick way was efficient,they did that instead.
    They knew they didn't like it,and they knew it ruined it for themselves,yet they couldn't resist the temptation of minmaxing the fun out of the feature they were looking forward to the most

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Spears View Post
    I mean it didn't they were still around mythic guilds rarely go dormant since its even rarer they come pack next patch. You might not see them because they stick to their own but they dont just vanish
    its extremely unlikely that the entire guild has literally everything they want from the current content. I do suspect that if they ever did they would just take a break till next xpac.

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  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodmoth13 View Post
    its extremely unlikely that the entire guild has literally everything they want from the current content. I do suspect that if they ever did they would just take a break till next xpac.
    No they really don't because they want to raid in the next expansion. I'm not assuming things ive ran at a CE level for a decade guilds that kill all the content then log off till next tier are so extremely rare as to not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodmoth13 View Post
    its extremely unlikely that the entire guild has literally everything they want from the current content. I do suspect that if they ever did they would just take a break till next xpac.

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    reward structures exist to trick players into playing the game they enjoy.
    If gameplay is in the way of your rewards you need to reconsider what game you are playing.
    WoW does dungeons and raids well. This filler content has no place to that audience and has been artificially inserted into the game. Maybe people enjoy it that is fine things like that can exist but don't let it become a chore for people who enjoy other elements.

    Have these systems be a part of progression makes as much functional sense as having pet battles decide mythic raid fights

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Spears View Post
    So then don't have it include gear.


    Pot, meet kettle.

    You're the guy that thinks that he should get every single drop the first time he downs the last boss. Even we lowly LFR people aren't THAT entitled.

    We get it, RNG totally bites. However the old system isn't going to come back either because Bliz knows the community can tend to suck when it comes to playing nice. That's why we have the personal loot system.

    However Bliz forgot to change the way the rules worked mathematically or something for a lot of people.

    Maybe suggest they fix the way the math works?
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  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by taheen74 View Post
    Pot, meet kettle.

    You're the guy that thinks that he should get every single drop the first time he downs the last boss. Even we lowly LFR people aren't THAT entitled.

    We get it, RNG totally bites. However the old system isn't going to come back either because Bliz knows the community can tend to suck when it comes to playing nice. That's why we have the personal loot system.

    However Bliz forgot to change the way the rules worked mathematically or something for a lot of people.

    Maybe suggest they fix the way the math works?
    Can you show where you saw the post that convinced you I wanted that?

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  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalam the Venom View Post
    that's just a pipe dream.

    Most people lose motivation & will to play the very second the "Carrot" disappears or they reach their "Goal"
    Quote Originally Posted by starstationprofm View Post
    If everyone unlocks everything there's no reason for the above average players to stick around. The average LFR mouthbreather should not be equal to the Mythic raider in unlocks.
    Maybe to you, maybe other above average players enjoy playing so they will stick around regardless
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