It's just carrot on a stick.
I'm living for the day when we'll finally say last goodbye to the RNG weekly slot machine and get hp/vp vendors back!
We are not talking about a single number. It's a group of numbers. It's pretty obvious you never got past grade school in Maths.
Getting number with only 1 or 2 unique digits is more rare than one with 3 or 4 unique digits when rolling 1-10000. It's really obvious what kind of numbers are rare and what not.
This isn't difficult math. It was gone through quite a few times even in this thread.
When you roll a dice 4 times, do you expect it all to be same number? Or multiple different numbers?
What did happen? I don't understand. 10^150 happened in the article? Lightning striking twice happened?
This is the absolute definition of a conspiracy theory.
Conflating different definitions of a word to confuse people. Blaming others for your failing to be diligent. Trying to prove a negative.
You are the one arguing with the default position. You have to prove it. None of the stories presented proves anything, and the simplest, and officially claimed, conclusion is a weighted RNG. Making a claim adverse to real evidence without any real evidence is a political argument. It has no basis it truth.
(BTW, an expected result to a mathematician is any result that is within the set of possible results, since you wanted to bring up math. Your argument there is like saying "evolution is only a theory" to a scientist.)
Last edited by Shaetha; 2021-05-14 at 06:02 AM.
You can literally put your own text "expected result to a mathematician" into google and receive the answer that you are completely wrong. It takes mere seconds to see whether it's right or wrong, but you still claim what you did.
There is real math, real studies etc about expected results, values, parameters whatever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value . It's not any value within result set. Possible value and expected value is different. I know this one isn't grade school math, but you can still read the text.
Last edited by kukkamies; 2021-05-14 at 06:28 AM.
What negative? I am happy with Weighted RNG and I do agree that it's the likely one. Fleugen is the one who wasn't happy with just a weighted rng, not me.
What's under discussion is Fleugen thinks that even a 1 in 1 000 000 000 000 000 is an expected result and so the likely outcome in what OP did.
Last edited by kukkamies; 2021-05-14 at 06:54 AM.
Sorry but I cannot find anything, no articles, papers, study material about specifically "expected result" related to mathematics, probability and statistics as was talked here and. I would be happy if you would explain.
What I can find is expected result used when something is completely wrong. 1+1=3 levels. Which is not what was in discussion here. Used either with those or the expected value meaning depending on link. For example https://www.radford.edu/rsheehy/Gen_...ial/x2-tut.htm which uses result or value interchangeably.
Last edited by kukkamies; 2021-05-14 at 09:12 AM.
If you tried to read the conversation, we were both talking about expected value. I now see that Felgen also understands what it meant, but I didn't notice it first time.
Let me borrow Felgen for a while.
""unless you're talking MULTIPLE number generators being added together to make a single number (Such as dice rolls - Where two die average to make a result of 7 more likely, and 3 die average to make a result of 10/11 most likely.)""
which is what expected value means. And he did understand it. I should have focused more on that, since that is basically this whole topic.
I guess you now think both Felgin and Shaetha too meant the "wrong" meaning?
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Sorry notice this only now. Yeah exactly. If you roll 3 dies and you get 1,1,1 = 3 it's not the expected result. Expected is 10/11 as you said. It's pretty much this whole topic. There are unexpected rolls just like when you have multiple ones like in Great Vault.
Last edited by kukkamies; 2021-05-14 at 12:06 PM.
It did happen multiple times did it not? 7 times so far for OP.
I honestly don't even understand which part it is that you don't like. Do you agree that 10/11 is the expected for the 3 dice rolls? And isn't it good for you if I argue for it being expected?
Also quick question. Did you also ignore huth as he didn't understand you either?
Last edited by kukkamies; 2021-05-14 at 12:35 PM.
Now I see the problem yeah. That is a bit more advanced mathematics since you need to think about what are the chances for any item to happen 3 times in a row, not just a specific one. With three dice instead of being 1/6 times three when getting specific it's only times two for any same 3 numbers. A lot easier but still very rare.
For huth he was unable to understand the meaning of "expected results" multiple times, which is pretty simple. So you ignoring me has to be something else than failing to understand a simple thing multiple times.
This is the 3rd time you say it's the end of discussion It's starting to be the expected result of 10/11 with 3 dice.
Last edited by kukkamies; 2021-05-14 at 07:23 PM.
You're still confusing expected results with expected values. 10.5 is the expected value for 3 six-sided dice. 3-18 is the expected results. The expected value isn't even an expected result for this situation.
Nothing here even touches advanced mathematics, this is all pretty tame stuff.
You should try read what Fleugen who mentioned expected results wrote.
If you have a problem with his meaning then take it up to Fleugen.
He is the one who started using it and gave the definition of it that we were both using and understood as same.
Or you could spend 1-5 minutes on google like I did to find out how it is used.
Last edited by kukkamies; 2021-05-15 at 01:19 PM.
It's down to the random gods