sylvanas in World of Warcraft: Folks & Fairy Tales Book spoilers

[Combatbutler]

@Nero Duskwind

For the life of me I don't understand who this angle pleases. There must be at least one person on this forum who'll argue in favor of turning the Sylvanas of the last twenty years into a dupe incapable of making her own choices, who's also not responsible for her actions so the people who want to kill her don't get any satisfaction out of it either. If you're out there, please, explain. What is the appeal? The resulting character with zero culpability or involvement in anything up to this point would be Halduron with tits, and I dare you to even tell me who that is without looking it up. I dare you to give me one character trait of his even after looking him up.

Well he flat out told you to commit genocide in MoP and he tortured Zul'jin. Otherwise he is a goody two shoes ;P

[sam86]

Apparently it goes beyond foreshadowing now. Judging by posts in this thread it's been confirmed today in an interview that Sylvanas' soul was split. Now queue in Blanduin playing a part in this grand revelation and saving Sylvanas' goodness.

fuck
I love that artwork, but for me Sylvanas is dead since BFA, i don't want any 'fix' for her, i tolerated her long enough
I liked Sylv when her life goal was fuck lich king at any cost, then in cata she decided to live for her ppl, then Danasur came and wanted to fantasize about a goth chick with big tits and shoved himself in Nathanos (who had no personality let's be honest prior to Danasur work), and now i just hate the idea of sylvanas still in wow
Sylv wow version show how activision fuck blizzard imo, she is a char from wc3, yet probably the char i hate the most for how crap they wrote her, at least when Jaina was evil i hate how ignorant she was, but she had a long established lore to backup how she transformed to 'i hate orcs' dreadlord phase, sylvannas on other hand is one if not only char who has a different personality every exp, sometimes in same exp change too

[Deneios]

Just as the blade rends flesh, so must power scar the spirit.

Its never said it whose spirit gets scarred.

[DemonHunter18]

yup, can easily see this "good" sylvanus walking down in a beam of light, Tyrande going up to her and saying "I forgive you" while the entire genocide is handwaved away

it's so cringy to the point it's funny.

[Varodoc]

Now watch Blizzard replace the Evil Sylvanas with the Good Sylvanas then proceed to feature the Good Sylvanas for the next 3 or so expansions as a main character.

Meanwhile Alleria will keep eating dust in the corner, because Blizzard can't be bothered to touch her. Let's not even mention Magister Umbric.

[Super Dickmann]

Well he flat out told you to commit genocide in MoP and he tortured Zul'jin. Otherwise he is a goody two shoes ;P

The first part I entirely forgot and is pretty cool, if off-base for Mr. "Valeera is our friend, come on in". The second part I don't remember at all. Wasn't it some random ranger dude who did it or has it been confirmed to be Halduron?

[Jastall]

The redemption train has no brakes now. Danuser will have his waifu not be responsible for anything bad she did come hell or high water. Never mind that trying to make a story about pre-death Sylvanas sounds about as interesting and relevant to a character that's been there for 20 years as trying to make a story about the wholesome kid Magneto was before being sent to the death camp.

Albeit it would be funny if we kill Bad Sylvanas, which produces the soul of Good Sylvanas, and somebody just says "bitch please, not this again" and crushes it as well. But at this point I'm 90% certain we get a redemption story to rival Kerrigan's in sheer terrible.

[Combatbutler]

The first part I entirely forgot and is pretty cool, if off-base for Mr. "Valeera is our friend, come on in". The second part I don't remember at all. Wasn't it some random ranger dude who did it or has it been confirmed to be Halduron?

Halduron was in charge of the group that had him and overlooked the torture, Liadrin was all about putting him out of his misery.

It is the typical blood elf pragmatism, he knows it is wrong but is still willing to do it. With Liadrin shoved into the forefront these little things are often overlooked, but belves still had their ruthless streak from time to time.

Though with the modern blizz approach to actually preach morality, these traits will be buried in obscurity.

[gcsmith]

I don't mind saving the noble half of Sylvannas, as long as the part that committed genocide gets obliterated or condemned to the maw for eternity/

[Derpules]

ojojojojojojoj as Russias would like to say.

Is that anything like the portugese JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA?

[Combatbutler]

I don't mind saving the noble half of Sylvannas, as long as the part that committed genocide gets obliterated or condemned to the maw for eternity/

Give them both oblivion, a fractured soul is in constant torment anyways.

[DemonHunter18]

Is that anything like the portugese JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA?

Something like that.

[TrueHorde]

what??

[Varodoc]

If Simpnuser had balls, he'd make it so the Sylvanas we saw all along was the GOOD Sylvanas, that would be an excellent plot twist.

If he had balls, obviously.

[Xilurm]

Where's the justice for the Night Elves?

[Raetary]

Where's the justice for the Night Elves?

Ha!
Justice for night elves.

Nice one, you should become a comedian.

[Mehrunes]

Where's the justice for the Night Elves?

Getting to apologize to Sylvanas for judging her too harshly while not knowing all the relevant circumstances will be their justice. I can already see the now de-fanged Tyrande doing just that, to focus on "healing".

[Combatbutler]

Where's the justice for the Night Elves?

They were doomed the moment they got tied to humanity.

[Varodoc]

Imagine redeeming someone who committed genocide and started a world war, just #BlizzardThings.

Then again, these are the same hacks who redeemed Grommash (started a world war, attempted to commit genocide) then had the guts to frame the victim (Yrel) as the villain while the abuser (Grommash) got away scots-free and had a hero's death.

[Sondrelk]

I don't mind saving the noble half of Sylvannas, as long as the part that committed genocide gets obliterated or condemned to the maw for eternity/

What's the point though. You might as well make the big emotional scene at the end be that we see Kael'thas' father get accepted into Bastion or whatever. It means absolutely nothing to the player currently. From a writing perspective it's just taking a random soul and redeeming it for something it didn't have anything to do with, and which furthermore has not been relevant to the story for decades.

And as had been mentioned, it's detrimental to the story as a whole. Every person killed by Frostmourne is now potentially s split personality, which in turn means most of the important death knights we know are not technically who we think they are. And while this is a plotline that could be interesting it has not been foreshadowed nearly enough to ever be relevant enough to warrant inclusion into the game.

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Imagine redeeming someone who committed genocide and started a world war, just #BlizzardThings.

Then again, these are the same hacks who redeemed Grommash (started a world war, attempted to commit genocide) then had the guts to frame the victim (Yrel) as the villain while the abuser (Grommash) got away scots-free and had a hero's death.

Trek at least had the benefit of a timeskip where you could fill in theory fill in the blanks of a proper villainous turn.
For Sylvanas there is no such thing. Her actions didn't just happen a few years ago like Teldrassil, they are technically still ongoing given the people likely currently under assault by feral Scourge.