Night warrior story ending and why people dont like it.

[shise]

“Rebuilding” will not do anything without vengeance. Just coming “back to the kitchen” which is now also missing two walls and covered in ashes and start sweeping the floor will not restore the race. It will just leave them for another slaughter or misery down the road.

“Rebuilding” means returning to sheep state again.

What do you mean? What vengeance? there is no vengeance … There is literally nothing to do to avenge the situation. Just heads down and rebuild, and this time be prepared to defend your territory.

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but it's just more of nothing really happening. Wow... look at this unstable barely controlled or understood power beyond mortal ken... oh wait nvm it's cast off and everything is totally fine.

It doesn´t mean that it might not be able to use it again, or start learning about it and, potentially, adopt it among the night elfs, somehow. But for now, the first step should be to remove the walls from the tunnel vision and start a process of productive .. restoration.

[VladlTutushkin]

What do you mean? What vengeance? there is no vengeance … There is literally nothing to do to avenge the situation. Just heads down and rebuild, and this time be prepared to defend your territory.

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It doesn´t mean that it might not be able to use it again, or start learning about it and, potentially, adopt it among the night elfs, somehow. But for now, the first step should be to remove the walls from the tunnel vision and start a process of productive .. restoration.

There are many ways of avenging the situation. From waging guerrilla war against the Horde and killing indiscriminately civilians and military to leveraging Alliance to demand reparations from the Horde and when they inevitably refuse restart the war.

[eurojust]

What do you mean? What vengeance? there is no vengeance … There is literally nothing to do to avenge the situation. Just heads down and rebuild, and this time be prepared to defend your territory.

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It doesn´t mean that it might not be able to use it again, or start learning about it and, potentially, adopt it among the night elfs, somehow. But for now, the first step should be to remove the walls from the tunnel vision and start a process of productive .. restoration.

How about they just kick the Orcs out of Kalimdor to make sure stuff like this don't happen again?

[baskev]

"Lets be friends! It was all the bad warchief..."
"Okay, its cool now."
*Horde proceeds to fake walking back before turning, rushing Alliance and stabbing them in the back relentlessly.*

nah, its not that bad. And we alliance also do some bad shit. But storywise horde is a bit more war like as alliance.

But on the other hand....sylvannas and garrosh :S

[Narwhalosh Whalescream]

Clearly the night elves should throw in the towel and just submit to becoming Azeroth basketball pros due to their height and heightened reflexes as advantage.

[VladlTutushkin]

nah, its not that bad. And we alliance also do some bad shit. But storywise horde is a bit more war like as alliance.

But on the other hand....sylvannas and garrosh :S

"A bit"? They literally only need a wave and a shout to rise for another genocidal war.

[bloodmoth13]

its awful. The 'peace and love' narrative has no place in 'world of WARcraft'.
The reason its awful is that the night warrior arc set up some great potential stories and conflicts that happened organically, they basically just deleted an entire ensemble of plot threads that i think players would enjoy.

Without war there is no point in this game. there are a limited number of valid reasons beyond 'LUL UM EVIL!!!!' to drive conflict. Nobody at all gives a shit about the jailer because his motivations as far as we can discern are limited to 'LUL UM EVIL!!!' Tyrande on the other hand had a very valid reason: Revenge.
Hell battle for azeroth could have kicked off with an amazing intro being the alliance retaking lordaeron. There were dozens of VALID reasons for the alliance to invade and 'retake' lordaeron, which would have set sylvanas up with a valid reason to burn teldrassil. Instead they went with the 'LUL UM EVIL!!!' direction and made sylvanas perform a number of retarded decisions that never made sense.

'cleansing' the cosmic power that tyrande willingly took from their beloved goddess, which coincidentally also neuters her and deletes her personality reverting her back to 'malfurion!', removes her motivations, removes a connection to an underexplained cosmic entity that many are very curious about (elune) and just kills off story with zero gain.

the whole night warrior story is dead, meaningless and pointless. It simply never needed to exist.

[Sammonoske]

Does Blizzard want players to swap factions? Because this is how.

[geco]

Does Blizzard want players to swap factions? Because this is how.

I think this is the exact opposite.
Will faction switching to the Horde give me revenge for Teldrazzil?
this is the way for Players to leave the Game.

To find faction changes you would need pj of the other faction that make you want to know their history.

[Every Pwny]

The night warrior story was only ever intended to give night elves black eye cosmetics options, like the blood elves got golden eyes at the start of BfA. It was pretty obvious they had no plans for this when tyrande disappeared after the 8.1 questline, didn't even show up to fight sylvanas in 8.2.5, and just disappears at the start of the expansion after she jumped into the maw, only to show up once in the middle of ardenweld campaign. Finally she makes a cameo to job against sylvanas in 9.1, and now we get to drop the night warrior story entire after it serving no purpose. This is the pinnacle of blizzard's ability to tell a story anymore.

[Sammonoske]

I think this is the exact opposite.
Will faction switching to the Horde give me revenge for Teldrazzil?
this is the way for Players to leave the Game.

To find faction changes you would need pj of the other faction that make you want to know their history.

Yeah, you're actually probably right about that.

[sam86]

Because humans only invaded her land once, and she forgave orcs for that too back then. Basically humans never wronged night elves afterwards (aside from refusing to help them in BfA) or invaded their land so she had no reason to hate them. Horde was only going further and further in aggravating her and hurting her people ever since.

they aren't obeying Theramore humans, they are obeying Stormwind humans, the same faction who had zero problem azeroth literally get fucked because their king was getting emo over his deserved wife death due to him cheating the defias from their hard earned working money (before they became evil of course, i think they were called stonemathons?)
I'd say being afk doing absolutely nothing while the world is literally getting fucked is enough reason to not obey them, but nah they are humans of course they do no mistake

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Does Blizzard want players to swap factions? Because this is how.

they want ppl to swap to alliance not horde with how broken OP their racials are since WoD at least
check tournament for pve or pvp, dominated by alliance since ages, since u aren't restricted with ur char to lvl from scratch, not to mention the hardcore scenery in retail wow is now so hard horde that u can't make it as alliance even with OP racials

[Kithelle]

As a recap for those who haven't read the PTR spoilers: After accomplishing zilch, doing nothing against any Horde NPC outside of the bounds of the war vs Sylvanas or doing more than calling Anduin names (and not very rude names either) Tyrande jobs one last time to Sylvanas. Then she accepts love and peace, ridding herself of the terrible cosmic power that allowed her to have positions more moderate than ones she had in WC3 and gave her the ability to kill a guy she should've easily run over anyway:



As predictable as it is bad.

Of course....sadly not surprising. Would say call the game World of Lovecraft if it wouldn't cause some kind of lawsuit

[mickybrighteyes]

It doesn´t mean that it might not be able to use it again, or start learning about it and, potentially, adopt it among the night elfs, somehow. But for now, the first step should be to remove the walls from the tunnel vision and start a process of productive .. restoration.

I don't see what that has to do with how rendering the vague unstable and overwhelming power of absorbing the power of Elune's darkest face into some sort of meh-worthy power boost that can be turned off on a whim for more kumbayah peacemongering.

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what u saw as 'stepping up', i saw as just idiotic rage with no consequence, just hate and anger for sake of hate and anger
no one wants sylvannas alive, why she is angry against ppl who wants the same thing as her?

yes it turned into pointless rage with no consequence. Look how fast they gave Tyrande the limelight and just flipped it into retarded side plot.

The narrative mess here has everything foisted up at Sylvanas' feet to hold the blame and Anduin is wishy washy on whether he's really about that life to pursue justice trying to hold Tyrande in check while Alleria and Turalyon can torture peasants and travelers to get at Sylvanas.

Meanwhile tyrande had a halfassed struggle cuddle with Nathanos and barely killed a Valkyr and basically had the entire powerboost she supposedly gained sacrificing elven lives for turn into one of the top 5 most underwhelming plot points EVER.

Please don't assume I'm still saying Tyrande's BFA and SL pressence is elves "stepping up" I am merely referring to the first inkling of her getting anywhere (i.e. when we were first able to unlock the cosmetic option and before they did any further Darkshore content) as it looking like it was going to have something going for the elves.... and Yeah... it turned into a tujrd sandwich slapping everyone in the face with forsaken elves that immediately jumped in with Blightcaller to join the fray fighitng night elf forces instantly after waking up....

[Theangryone]

Wow has almost given up all pretense of being an even mild rpg game. Like many things, people don’t like it because the story is a hot mess.

[mickybrighteyes]

Does Blizzard want players to swap factions? Because this is how.

well horde side alreayd got the message that their faction isn't working. Baine as the figure head of warchief related matters before they revealed it was a council. Varian's pet spy as the liaison for later quest updates. Virtually every major figure replaced with neutral or alliance characters... not just one but TWO major arcs saying warchief = bad and we should feel bad for liking it.

[Chumahki]

Of course....sadly not surprising. Would say call the game World of Lovecraft if it wouldn't cause some kind of lawsuit

I would totally play "World of H.P. Lovecraft"!!!

[VladlTutushkin]

well horde side alreayd got the message that their faction isn't working. Baine as the figure head of warchief related matters before they revealed it was a council. Varian's pet spy as the liaison for later quest updates. Virtually every major figure replaced with neutral or alliance characters... not just one but TWO major arcs saying warchief = bad and we should feel bad for liking it.

Funniest part is how Horde has nothing to fear from Alliance since faction is so passive it actually cares more about keeping Horde fine and well then about its own members. So EVEN if Alliance gained some leverage over the horde they would NEVER use it to harm it!

[Hellspawn]

Funniest part is how Horde has nothing to fear from Alliance since faction is so passive it actually cares more about keeping Horde fine and well then about its own members. So EVEN if Alliance gained some leverage over the horde they would NEVER use it to harm it!

And they started the entire thing because Sylvanas convinced the other leads that Alliance could attack at some point... maybe in 100 years! How stupid are these people?

[VladlTutushkin]

And they started the entire thing because Sylvanas convinced the other leads that Alliance could attack at some point... maybe in 100 years! How stupid are these people?

Must be severe iodine deficiency in Durotar.