Israel and Palestine Conflict Heats Up

[Santti]

Or maybe just let other countries live the way they want rather than trying to force your ways on them?

Your pleading seems pretty fucking hollow, considering you are not willing to let the Palestinians live they way they want, but want to force your ways on them instead.

You are basically saying that Hitler did nothing wrong. Nazi Germany just wanted to live the way they wanted. They, too, decided that diversity wasn't working for them. Hell, the Nazis were "kind" enough to let the Jews leave at first. But there were no takers from other countries, so what can you do?

Is this really the way you want this to go?

[Easo]

I was wondering when people would start crying about ethnostates in this topic. Does not matter to them that most countries in the world are ones xD

[Elegiac]

To be fair.. for all Israel's faults they are not actually throwing people in gas chambers..

Here, let me give the Israeli government the credit they are due for only doing ethnic cleansing just short of throwing people in the gas chambers:



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I was wondering when people would start crying about ethnostates in this topic. Does not matter to them that most countries in the world are ones xD

Most of them aren't, and the ones that are certainly should not be looked to as models of social harmony.

[Specialka]

Here, let me give the Israeli government the credit they are due for only doing ethnic cleansing just short of throwing people in the gas chambers:



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Most of them aren't, and the ones that are certainly should not be looked to as models of social harmony.

Does also mean that those who are not "ethnostate" should be looked as models of social harmony.

[Elegiac]

Does also mean

Take the strawmen elsewhere, please.

[Specialka]

Take the strawmen elsewhere, please.

Sure, qualify anything you do not like as strawmen, how classic and boring

[Rozz]

Only warning on this: We're not debating the merits of an ethno-state, especially since the context here implies the removal or killing of people already within a nation. It can easily devolve into blatant racism. That includes trying to debate multi-culturalism.

[JohnBrown1917]

To be fair.. for all Israel's faults they are not actually throwing people in gas chambers..

No, just keep them into a open-air prison camp and bomb them from time to time.

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I was wondering when people would start crying about ethnostates in this topic. Does not matter to them that most countries in the world are ones xD

Are you trying to make a point that a lot of nationstates are horrible? Because if that makes it somehow okay..

[Cringefest]

Or maybe just let other countries live the way they want rather than trying to force your ways on them?

Yes, like Palestine, uh sorry that didn't work.

[Freighter]

Yes, like Palestine, uh sorry that didn't work.

There is no country called Palestine.

[Logwyn]

There is no country called Palestine.

The large green area thinks there is:

[Acidbaron]

As there is no new thread i guess discussing any and all Israeli politics will go into here,

I do not know enough about the Politics in Israel to comment on the new PM, it could be a wolf in sheep clothing for all we outsiders know as we often make that mistake looking from the outside in, i know that is the case of many Europeans trying to understand American politics and doing so incorrectly.

But the dethroning of King Bibi had to happen for several reasons and it is good that it did, i hope now the courts can do there work and continue with the prosecution and so the people there will see that nobody is above the law, also pandering to extremists was creating more issues and gave me the impression from the international press that issues that actually matter to the Israelis often had to take a back seat. Although i am not naive in thinking that extremist religious groups won't try to crawl their way into the political machine like they did before and who says that there tentacles are even completely gone with their man out on the street.

Let us hope it can last for a while since as a Belgian i know how difficult it is for a government consisting out of multiple smaller parties with opposing ideologies and barely a majority have a hard time staying afloat and that is under far more stable circumstances.

I am sure the economist or other more reputable journalist magazines will give us a better insight out of what to expect from this new government, regardless a change of power was needed and it has finally come for Israel.

[Specialka]

The large green area thinks there is:

So most of the dictators of the globe ? Great exemple I guess. And they mostly do it to piss off the West who tend to support Israel and do not want to deal with terrorists (Hamas)

[Cringefest]

So most of the dictators of the globe ? Great exemple I guess. And they mostly do it to piss off the West who tend to support Israel and do not want to deal with terrorists (Hamas)

And this, kids, is how colonialism works in the 21st century.

[Freighter]

The large green area thinks there is:

Ok? That doesn't make it a country.

[Specialka]

And this, kids, is how colonialism works in the 21st century.

So you support dictatorship and terrorists ?

[Acidbaron]

So most of the dictators of the globe ? Great exemple I guess. And they mostly do it to piss off the West who tend to support Israel and do not want to deal with terrorists (Hamas)

Even those not on the map, the vast majority of the international community supports the two state solution. What in itself acknowledges the want and need of a Palestinian state and thus country in this context.

The Western support for Israel has dwindled quite a bit over the last few decades and their constant acts of aggression (Think landgrab and disowning Palestinian families of their homes), followed by retaliation has not improved that. But the support from the West towards Israel is a complicated matter with a longer history than most on this forum have been alive for probably.

[Specialka]

Ok? That doesn't make it a country.

Well, yes and no, countries are mostly defined if they are recognized by someone else.

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Even those not on the map, the vast majority of the international community supports the two state solution. What in itself acknowledges the want and need of a Palestinian state and thus country in this context.

The Western support for Israel has dwindled quite a bit over the last few decades and their constant acts of aggression (Think landgrab and disowning Palestinian families of their homes), followed by retaliation has not improved that. But the support from the West towards Israel is a complicated matter with a longer history than most on this forum have been alive for probably.

Oh but I also do support the two state solution as long as the Hamas is no longer in the picture.

[Cringefest]

So you support dictatorship and terrorists ?

So you think the green area in the map, aka everywhere outside the western world is dictatorships and terrorists?
Yours truly is the most vile form of intolerance out there right now.

[Specialka]

So you think the green area in the map, aka everywhere outside the western world is dictatorship and terrorists?
Yours truly is the most vile form of intolerance out there right now.

Not what I said. I guess reading is not your strong suit.