Israel and Palestine Conflict Heats Up

[tehdang]

Jerusalem has a flag day march. Which of course prompts Hamas launch of incendiary balloons to start 20 fires. So Israel counterattacks some military compounds.

It's probably a test of the new coalition government to see if Israel still reacts to actual arson attacks.

And some portion of international viewers will still condemn Israel and effectively say they are powerless to counterstrike while under missile and incendiary fire. Because that's been the same reaction ever since Hamas took power and increased the hostilities.

[uuuhname]

must be boring and miserable to keep getting upset at people having issues with a US backed military's indiscriminately killing a civilian population. just say you're okay with war crimes and move on.

[Cringefest]

Jerusalem has a flag day march. Which of course prompts Hamas launch of incendiary balloons to start 20 fires. So Israel counterattacks some military compounds.

It's probably a test of the new coalition government to see if Israel still reacts to actual arson attacks.

And some portion of international viewers will still condemn Israel and effectively say they are powerless to counterstrike while under missile and incendiary fire. Because that's been the same reaction ever since Hamas took power and increased the hostilities.

A flag day march.
Full on into surreal territory here.
Some people really just want to watch the world burn. Hint, it's not the once launching "incendiary balloons".

[Easo]

Looks like the fash party the far-right nationalists had in Jerusalem had the intended effect they wanted. IDF is back to bombing Gaza right now in retaliation to Palestinian protesters throwing "incendiary balloons" and starting fires in southern Israel. They're just looking for any excuse to blow up Palestinians at this point.

Ah yes, "protesters". Who does not know about protesters sending incendiary balloons?

Imagine supporting a country that systematically protects extreme far right marches at the level we've seen with this latest one.
"Another nakba is coming", people were chanting.
700k Palestinians left or were removed from their homes during that first one.
Imagine for a second, anything like that happened in a normal, western country.

Supports? Wanna quote from Israel's Foreign Minister? I am gonna give it anyway:

Centrist Yair Lapid - Israel's foreign minister and main partner in the governing coalition - condemned the march.

On Twitter, he said: "It's inconceivable how you can hold an Israeli flag and shout 'Death to Arabs' at the same time... These people are a disgrace to the nation of Israel."

[Gaidax]

Jerusalem has a flag day march. Which of course prompts Hamas launch of incendiary balloons to start 20 fires. So Israel counterattacks some military compounds.

It's probably a test of the new coalition government to see if Israel still reacts to actual arson attacks.

And some portion of international viewers will still condemn Israel and effectively say they are powerless to counterstrike while under missile and incendiary fire. Because that's been the same reaction ever since Hamas took power and increased the hostilities.

Pretty much, I'm sure there is a wall of filtered out comments now crying crocodile tears, but reality is simple if Hamas launches their incendiary and explosive crap over the border - Israel responds. Expecting there to be no response over this is just silly and nothing to do with Israel, because every bloody single government in the world would do the same or just get tossed out in the elections.

It's fine by me, really. I have more pressing concerns like housing crisis.

[downnola]

Ah yes, "protesters". Who does not know about protesters sending incendiary balloons?

Ahh yes, an "incendiary balloon." Who does not know of these weapons of mass destruction that threaten the existence of Israel.

Supports? Wanna quote from Israel's Foreign Minister? I am gonna give it anyway:

Uh, you might try and look these things up before commenting.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ds-2021-06-14/

JERUSALEM, June 14 (Reuters) - Israel’s new government on Monday approved a Jewish nationalist march in Jerusalem, a step that risks inflaming tensions with Palestinians hours after veteran leader Benjamin Netanyahu handed over power to Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.

[Easo]

Ahh yes, an "incendiary balloon." Who does not know of these weapons of mass destruction that threaten the existence of Israel.



Uh, you might try and look these things up before commenting.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ds-2021-06-14/

JERUSALEM, June 14 (Reuters) - Israel’s new government on Monday approved a Jewish nationalist march in Jerusalem, a step that risks inflaming tensions with Palestinians hours after veteran leader Benjamin Netanyahu handed over power to Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.

You one of those to whom rock throwing is fine too?

Ever heard of democracy? On what basis it should be stopped? Your dislike for far right nationalists?

The protesters didn’t send the balloons. The injuries suffered by them caused the balloons as retaliation from Hamas. You really need to pay better attention.

Injuries suffered because they were pure and innocent? Sure.

Maybe you need to pay attention yourself (starting with who mentioned protesters in the first place). You even said Hamas. Yes, exactly Hamas. Go complain to them. Oh, wait.

[downnola]

You one of those to whom rock throwing is fine too?

Ever heard of democracy? On what basis it should be stopped? Your dislike for far right nationalists.

I'm one of those people who say rock throwing doesn't justify the death of children from bombing population dense areas.

What democracy? Apartheid states are not real democracies by definition. Especially when one group is granted the right to free speech in occupied territory and another isn't.

[Easo]

I'm one of those people who say rock throwing doesn't justify the death of children from bombing population dense areas.

What democracy? Apartheid states are not real democracies by definition. Especially when one group is granted the right to free speech in occupied territory and another isn't.

Attempting to burn people alive does not too?
I am pretty sure even this thread had a video from recent events with Israeli police standing and doing nothing while a Palestianian... mob? tried to do their best to provoke them by screaming and showing phones in their faces. Free speech? Free speech.

[Cringefest]

Ah yes, "protesters". Who does not know about protesters sending incendiary balloons?



Supports? Wanna quote from Israel's Foreign Minister? I am gonna give it anyway:

Words--------->facts

They allowed it to happen.

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You one of those to whom rock throwing is fine too?

Ever heard of democracy? On what basis it should be stopped? Your dislike for far right nationalists?



Injuries suffered because they were pure and innocent? Sure.

Maybe you need to pay attention yourself (starting with who mentioned protesters in the first place). You even said Hamas. Yes, exactly Hamas. Go complain to them. Oh, wait.

Hold on, you approve of people marching chanting "death to Arabs" or "another nakba is coming"?

[downnola]

Attempting to burn people alive does not too?
I am pretty sure even this thread had a video from recent events with Israeli police standing and doing nothing while a Palestianian... mob? tried to do their best to provoke them by screaming and showing phones in their faces. Free speech? Free speech.

Yeah, free speech .

And more free speech. So democratic!

even more free speech! much expression, wow.

[Breccia]

Imagine supporting a country that systematically protects extreme far right marches at the level we've seen with this latest one.

You mean...like...literal torch-carrying Nazis?

[Acidbaron]

While i agree that the retaliation by the Israeli army is often if not always disproportionate, one must not forget that Hamas also gains influence and thus wins by luring out these attacks.

Both extremes gain by keeping this game of human suffering going. Every time an attack succeeds they declare it as a win, yes it is perverse but you can really reduce this to a game of the one side trying to do one over on the other.

[Cringefest]

You mean...like...literal torch-carrying Nazis?

Yeah, imagine supporting that.

[downnola]

While i agree that the retaliation by the Israeli army is often if not always disproportionate, one must not forget that Hamas also gains influence and thus wins by luring out these attacks.

Both extremes gain by keeping this game of human suffering going. Every time an attack succeeds they declare it as a win, yes it is perverse but you can really reduce this to a game of the one side trying to do one over on the other.

What is Hamas gaining from any of this? The West Bank and East Jerusalem continues to be settled. Hard to find it a win when Palestinians keep losing their homes via settlements or bombs.

[Acidbaron]

What is Hamas gaining from any of this? The West Bank and East Jerusalem continues to be settled. Hard to find it a win when Palestinians keep losing their homes via settlements or bombs.

They remain being the strongest ''party'' on their side of the fence, there is no opposition to them. They are really interested in keeping that power in place, read a good article about all this at the start of this most recent conflict cannot recall from where exactly but it did not paint these freedom fighters in a good light.

[Specialka]

What is Hamas gaining from any of this? The West Bank and East Jerusalem continues to be settled. Hard to find it a win when Palestinians keep losing their homes via settlements or bombs.

International and internal support.

[Acidbaron]

International support.

Oh yes the raid on the Mosque at the start of this, their PR was spot on and they gained a lot of traction and support which i have been told is different from last incidents.

[downnola]

They remain being the strongest ''party'' on their side of the fence, there is no opposition to them. They are really interested in keeping that power in place, read a good article about all this at the start of this most recent conflict cannot recall from where exactly but it did not paint these freedom fighters in a good light.

That's unfortunate because Hamas will just further speed up Palestine's eventual erasure.

[Acidbaron]

That's unfortunate because Hamas will just further speed up Palestine's eventual erasure.

In Gaza yes but that wont be a fast event, also Hamas is active in more than just that part.