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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    The association goes back to medieval heraldry. Lions were considered an embodiment of many of the knightly virtues. At some point three golden lions became associated with the monarchy (three gold lions) and that heraldry creates the modern association between the UK and lions.
    Some point? How about around the time the sun didn’t set on the British empire?
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    Lion heraldry definitely has early medieval roots, probably earlier if I remember correctly. Animals has been used as heraldry for a long time. The lion has simply become a symbol of royalty in many places because it has often been considered the king of animals.

    I don't think there's any connection between it's use and colonialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    40k years ago?
    Native but extinct is still native.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Some point? How about around the time the sun didn’t set on the British empire?
    Just looked up the exact time period and it was in the 12th century under the Plantagenets. So long before the heady days of British imperialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Yeah, it’s a symbol of colonialism... I think... it would make sense...

    Strange choice... but, they are trying... /shrug
    I doubt colonialism had anything to do with William the Conquerer...



    The lion has been a symbol of England well before it became a colonial empire. Lions have always been used everywhere as a symbol of royalty, bravery and strength. The fact that there has been lions in England (or in this case, Normandy) or not has nothing to do with it.
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