Irony in this week across the world....

[Felya]

unions doesn't mean socialism...

Neither does a rose...

[Egomaniac]

Its international workers day that is being discussed..

Look back further and you'll see the original claim was that America created "May Day".

[Xarkan]

Look back further and you'll see the original claim was that America created "May Day".

And Themius (the one who made said original claim) later clarified he meant international workers day.. in the last quote in this post:

May Day, or International Workers' Day was a day for remembering the workers who died during the Haymarket affair of 1886.[3] During a General Strike in Chicago, Illinois, an unknown person threw a bomb into the crowd, prompting police to fire into the crowd, killing civilians and police alike. The same day in 1890, Raymond Lavigne called for international demonstrations to commemorate the day.[3] In 1894 the Pullman Strike in Illinois, as well as this series of unemployed workers' riots on May Day in Cleveland, prompted U.S. President Grover Cleveland to propose a bill that would make a Labor Day a national public holiday.[4] After the Haymarket Square riot in May, 1886, US President Grover Cleveland feared that commemorating Labor Day on May 1 could become an opportunity to commemorate the riots.[5] May Day celebrations have diminished in the United States, because of the creation of Labor Day.[3]

This is what I am on about.

Which means it is .. international workers day that was being discussed

Not that this tangent is even the main thread here

[AeneasBK]

Yeah, not sure where America being the cause for UK May Day comes into it.

It's since been clarified; but at the time I did wonder if America had a burgeoning Morris Dancing tradition.

[Orange Joe]

I mean it's a funny juxtaposition.

But aside from that, it's still a dangerous profession deserving of honor and remembering sacrifice. At least, if people dream of a future in policing with fewer instances of brutality and negligent homicide, they should admit that they won't ever recruit the right candidates if they can never allow the profession honor.

If I remember right it's not even a top 10 most dangerous job.

according to this it's not even top 20

https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748...-united-states

[Attackrabbit]

In the USA
http://www.nationalpoliceweek.com/


In the UK
https://www.blackinclusionweek.com/

I'm pretty ill at the moment and it's been a tiring week so maybe that's why I have no idea what irony you are on about :s

[Santti]

If I remember right it's not even a top 10 most dangerous job.

according to this it's not even top 20

https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748...-united-states

I'd imagine the US police has also created much of the danger they face.

[gaymer77]

I'm pretty ill at the moment and it's been a tiring week so maybe that's why I have no idea what irony you are on about :s

The fact that in the UK they are having a black inclusion week this week (from their own website: "An opportunity for all across the UK to celebrate Black people in the UK and to remember the importance of building a fair and just society through the inclusion of EVERYONE") while in America it is National Police Week which is a week organized by 3 different police groups to honor the police who died in the line of duty & from COVID. The irony is how here in the USA police have a bad rap of killing POC (people of color aka blacks & the various Latin people) at an alarming rate. As many people worldwide are aware of the George Floyd killing and further conviction of the officer who killed him and the UK decided last year after the events of George Floyd to start the black inclusion week over there. The fact that the organizers of National Police Week chose to make it the exact same week that Black Inclusion Week is being ran in the UK shows how out of touch the US police organizations are towards the black community.

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I'd imagine the US police has also created much of the danger they face.

They are

If I remember right it's not even a top 10 most dangerous job.

according to this it's not even top 20

https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748...-united-states

I'm surprised there weren't more of them who died in the line of duty with how much the "support the blue" folks talk about how dangerous it is to be a cop. What was shocking to me looking at that list was how many delivery drivers got killed. They were #1 in total deaths but because of how many there are their death rate per 100k is lower. Still ranked in at #7 though. I honestly thought construction workers would be higher than what they are because its a dangerous job and extremely shocked how commercial fishermen aren't even on the list at all because that's in my opinion the most dangerous job out there.

[Attackrabbit]

The fact that the organizers of National Police Week chose to make it the exact same week that Black Inclusion Week is being ran in the UK shows how out of touch the US police organizations are towards the black community.

So you're claiming it's ironic that 2 completely seperate countries are doing different things at the same time.
If it was Black Inclusion Week and also National Police Week in the USA then maybe it would have been an example of irony but more than likely an example of the lack of fucks given by police in the USA.

[Felya]

Europe suffers from lion envy.. just look at all the coats of arms for the monarchies, so many lions

Yeah, it’s a symbol of colonialism... I think... it would make sense...

Strange choice... but, they are trying... /shrug

[Yadryonych]

Yeah, it’s a symbol of colonialism... I think... it would make sense...

Strange choice... but, they are trying... /shrug

It's so hilarious to see you struggling yet being unable to comprehend that lion could symbolise bravery and courage of African people and how lion is strongly associated with the Africa itself.

Truly your latent racism speaks louder than your blatant virtue signaling

[Felya]

It's so hilarious to see you struggling yet being unable to comprehend that lion could symbolise bravery and courage of African people and how lion is strongly associated with the Africa itself.

Uhm... This is about inclusion... you know, black people being part of England, not Africa...

Truly your latent racism speaks louder than your blatant virtue signaling

Now that’s... ironic...

[Drutt]

Why would you use a lion as part of British inclusion week? That’s literally an animal that isn’t native

1. The UK had native lions. They are simply extinct today.

2. The association goes back to medieval heraldry. Lions were considered an embodiment of many of the knightly virtues. At some point three golden lions became associated with the monarchy (three gold lions) and that heraldry creates the modern association between the UK and lions.

[Felya]

The association goes back to medieval heraldry. Lions were considered an embodiment of many of the knightly virtues. At some point three golden lions became associated with the monarchy (three gold lions) and that heraldry creates the modern association between the UK and lions.

Some point? How about around the time the sun didn’t set on the British empire?

[Dezerte]

Lion heraldry definitely has early medieval roots, probably earlier if I remember correctly. Animals has been used as heraldry for a long time. The lion has simply become a symbol of royalty in many places because it has often been considered the king of animals.

I don't think there's any connection between it's use and colonialism.

[Drutt]

40k years ago?

Native but extinct is still native.

Some point? How about around the time the sun didn’t set on the British empire?

Just looked up the exact time period and it was in the 12th century under the Plantagenets. So long before the heady days of British imperialism.

[Frontenac]

Yeah, it’s a symbol of colonialism... I think... it would make sense...

Strange choice... but, they are trying... /shrug

I doubt colonialism had anything to do with William the Conquerer...



The lion has been a symbol of England well before it became a colonial empire. Lions have always been used everywhere as a symbol of royalty, bravery and strength. The fact that there has been lions in England (or in this case, Normandy) or not has nothing to do with it.