Aliens

[PC2]

Please. You make half-assed claims...when they aren't wild and far out, of science that you can't explain...and worse, deride the very science you claim to believe.

Are you saying humans can't comprehend aliens right now with current knowledge or are you saying that aliens and their science and tech is inherently incomprehensible to humans? I see no issue with saying we do not currently have enough knowledge, but if you're saying we can't even comprehend them in principle then that's the part that is absurd.

[Tuor]

The general idea is wormholes would be used.

There are other proposed ways of travelling other then wormholes. For example we could creat a bubble around a ship and expand space, similar to waht the universe does. Using this method you wouldn't be moving at all, but the space expansion would carry a ship at really long distances.

Offcourse, this and wormhole are still prety much in the field of theoretical phisics.

[PACOX]

Ultimatley, people really aren't going to care until a UFO (or whatever the government calls them) does something to a bunch of people at once. Theres been mass sightings of things, but those things usually just come and go. You can say you saw something but can't rule out a misunderstanding. If its a one off event theres no like you can do anything about it so you move on. UFOs simply by definition but no one can say what they are or aren't until theres one that regularly happens. People aren't going to trust the government and definitly not the military. You can rule out it being China or Russia though for a number of reasons:

(a) even if they managed to keep the project a complete secret there would be evidence of them access to highly sophisitated technology in other areas instead of just trying to keep pace with the US

(b) if would be horrible intel security to let them know they have hardware that you're not even capable of comprehending. Its like playing poker and telling your opponent exactly what your 'tell' is.

Theres some 'disproof' arguments that are just silly though. Like the ones that claim pilots suddenly read there instruments/instruments being buggy - even if you don't know how to fix a bug/flaw it gets documented. Arguments that say we aliens would be easily be detectable. Just think about that last one, our barely flying/barely launching rockets/just figured out theres other galaxy/can barely see huge objects in our own solar system asses would be able to just detect aliens capable of regular spaceflight? Let alone judge the limits of their technology? We do a damn good job at covering out tracks when we land on Mars and send out probes 'just in case' we might bump into aliens. We still have trouble tracking some of the stuff we send up into space, let alone stuff coming down. Why would it be 'obvious' that aliens within Earth's atmosphere would be easily detectable. Remember Oumuamua, an 'alien' rock in our solar system, and how hard it was to track and how little we know about it, Now think about an intelligence species that being cautious. And when people say 'aliens' they always mean physical beings, why not alien probes/AI like we would send to another planet? Long story short, NDT is an ass.

[Rennadrel]

If aliens actually existed, they'd have either conquered us or would want nothing to do with us as a species with the shit we do to one another.