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  1. #81
    I mean if you are worth 8.09 billion in 2020 and still have issue making great games, I'd say your focus is not on making great games. Probably focusing more on in-game purchases/transactions.

  2. #82
    They spend the bare minimum on games. If a game does well it just means a very few people make more money.

    Overwatch is a weird example too. I would argue that the game would not have succeeded without battle.net which wouldn't have a huge playerbase on without wow. Yet you saw none of the money they made at the height of the overwatch hype go back to anything that made it a success. Instead they started downsizing the staff working on wow and shifting people away from it. I dont think more money helps them at all to make a better product. HotS was making a profit, but not at the same margins as their other IP's so they cut that.

    As soon as they find a way to automate raid design at 70% efficiency they'll do it and kick a few people out. Then in 3 weeks fix the boss that the algorithm accidentally made look like a flying crying butthole.

  3. #83
    Can Blizzard please sell a license for WoW IP to Dreamhaven so Mike & Co can start working on World of Warcraft 2? Blizzard can stay as publisher, I don’t care.

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    No it hasn't. You can look up the corporate structure yourself. Activision-Blizzard is the holding company under which Activision and Blizzard both exist as separate companies. Booby Kotick is the CEO of Activision-Blizzard;. Activision and Blizzard both have their own CEO's who report to Bobby. Those are the facts and you can go to the Activision-Blizzard website to see it. The only one spouting BS is you.

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    He doesn't because the facts on how this came together are widely known. Activision-Blizzard was a holding company created in 2008 as a result of the merger of Activision and Vivendi games. The holding company owns both Activision and Blizzard who operate as two separate entities with their own CEO's. Eric Hirschberg and J. Allen Brack. Those CEO's report to the Activision-Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick.
    We're not talking corporate structure. You specifically said:
    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    Avtivision has no control over Blizzard.
    While recent news and feedback from actual employees states otherwise. Read, don't skim, the news from the last week or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callipygoustp View Post
    While recent news and feedback from actual employees states otherwise. Read, don't skim, the news from the last week or two.
    Which is technically the truth since Activision-Blizzard is who has control over Blizzard. Yes the CEO of Activision Blizzard and some of its board/employees came from Activision but that doesn't mean Activision calls the shots since Activision is a child company the same as Blizzard. It has only been since 2013 that Activision Blizzard had no parent company as well.
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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Djuntas View Post
    ...So they might make actual good games and new IP's.
    That's a groundless assumption. ;]
    In my country we have a saying~"the hungry artist is the most prolific".
    Actually my opinion is that WoW current state is mostly due to two things:
    1) lack of real competition for years
    2) blizzard costumers accepting every spit that landed on their face while still paid generously for their products.
    That's not a setting to improve and advance but rather to collect money and give as much fk as possible.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by callipygoustp View Post
    We're not talking corporate structure. You specifically said:

    While recent news and feedback from actual employees states otherwise. Read, don't skim, the news from the last week or two.
    They don't. Activision-Blizzard does. I was specifically referring to the corporate structure when I said that. thye fact that you refuse to link anything and just repeat what you said proves you have nothing. Activision does not have control over Blizzard. Activision-Blizzard does. Understand the difference and stop lying..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Which is technically the truth since Activision-Blizzard is who has control over Blizzard. Yes the CEO of Activision Blizzard and some of its board/employees came from Activision but that doesn't mean Activision calls the shots since Activision is a child company the same as Blizzard. It has only been since 2013 that Activision Blizzard had no parent company as well.
    Thank you. Someone who gets it. It's a holding company, Activision-Blizzard, led by CEO Bobby Kotick that call the shots for both Activision and Blizzard., Activision's CEO, Eric Hirschberg, does not call the shots for Blizzard while J.Allen Brack, CEO of Blizzard does not call shots for Activision,

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Don't hold your breath, they went woke and are going broke as they fucking should. Focusing on pathetic needles politics and removing oh noes seckzee wahmen from their games instead of actually giving a rip about have development, let them burn in their California dumpster fire.
    This is like next level cringelord shit.

    I mean I'm most definitely not a "woke lefty" myself, but what is uncovered is pretty fucking bad and there is no two shits about that one no matter if you are left, right or center.

    Sexual harassment is bad and sexual harassment by superiors at work that hold you hostage with a "dream" job is worse and it's just down to being a decent human being at that point and not "herpa derp woke politics".

    And yes, Afrasiabi was already terminated by Blizz for that shit, so you can bet the shit is real. Now you'd be right to say something - let the judge decide based on actual facts and not feels, but that shit absolutely and totally happened and this is not something you should be defending.

    Don't you worry, despite all the solemn messages of regret, ActiBlizz will wall up to the teeth with lawyers and shit. They have all the $$ for world class defense to cut them a good settlement given the situation. They don't need random forum trolls defending them.


    And if part of the settlement and change would be taming some of their shit both at workplace and ingame, I'm all for it. IMO, WoW could use some toxic crap reduction from various "big dick" cringelords too.
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  9. #89
    Can a judge decide to break up blizzard the company?

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cæli View Post
    Can a judge decide to break up blizzard the company?
    That won't happen, because nobody is even asking for it.

    What will happen is monetary settlement and then some internal cleaning up.
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  11. #91
    22 million gold in wow and complaining about some random thing, yeah no.

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    Absolutely NOTHING will happen.

    People think that lawsuits or women being groped or baldman streaming FFXIV will suddenly make blizzard/devs change their ways and go back to how things were 15 years ago. It's not gonna happen. Why? Because if they're still making rivers of cash, which they are, they do not care, at all.

    There can be news that a dev is actually a serial killer, or they can make a patch with some absurd shit which completely, 100% breaks the game, doesn't matter. If they can still reskin a mount in 15 minutes and make billions selling it + 6 months of subs, they're laughing all the way to the bank.

    The only way to REALLY fix this situation is if people could just stop being retarded, consoooomer whales and stop giving them money. Then you will see 1 year of changes happening in 1 week.

    The alternative is to just quit the game and stop caring. Slowly but surely, there will be less and less players around and the whales will be sad because there's nobody around to see their new store mount. Then they will quit as well, and blizzard will finally take the trash out and start a shitty WoW2.

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