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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Lane View Post
    I personally thought Rift at launch was objectively better than WoW in almost every respect, especially since it came out during Cataclysm which I thought was god awful. I still don't know why it didn't do better other than WoW tribalism (a lot of people didn't seem to like their "you're not in Azeroth anymore"
    The only thing that Rift really had over WoW at release was the open world content (the titular rifts), but even that was pretty short lived and was entertaining for a very short while and not very complex. Everything else in the game was a slightly inferior albeit somewhat competent alternative to WoW, which is not enough to beat a game you are clearly targeting.

    It was not that people didnt like their clearly antagonistic towards wow advertising, it's that this kind of advertising approach sets you on a crash course with that other game. Games that beat WoW usually did not try to directly compete with it, which is clearly the right way to go about. RIFT tried to be "wow but better" and clearly in the eyes of the majority, did not do that. And since that was all it aimed to be, people just left.
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  2. #42
    I don't disagree that they need a new game. 17 years is a long ass time (too long) for one game to keep going, regardless of the expansions adding to it.

    I personally think they will do (if covid didn't mess it up) what they are doing with OW2 in 10.0

    Which means - Upgrade the game engine, textures, changes to how the game plays, new narrative (time skip), while allowing the original game (and all you're progress) to still function within the new game.

    Yes, these are things an expansion could do, but giving the game a new 2.0 label communicates to people it's a different game and gives the developers freedom to do significant overhauls and take the game in different directions.
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by RemasteredClassic View Post
    Would be really cool if they can link unique rewards you get in retail for achievements you do in classic versions. I think retail/live would best work as a collection/completionist game that should stop at the 10th expansion.

    A WoW 2 then follows giving us something completely new and refreshing that is not linked to the previous 10 expansions in terms of player specific things, giving us a new vanilla experience with nothing carried over.

    I used to be against this idea, but I just don’t see how WoW can survive against the competition if things continue as they are.

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    it's not that hard, if they just look at my name and do what it says....plus on top of that all kinds of quality of life changes, the best of all of WoW, all in one put together on top of a remastered vanilla. They can even do a poll of all features in all of WoW history so far and include the most popular ones. Make this version of WoW, the WoW plus.....keep adding expansions to the normal WoW as usual and whatever is popular, add it to the PLUS
    You think it takes a long time to get to each new expansion now? Think about how long it would take for a brand new game. That kind of thing takes 5-10 years of planning.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo03 View Post
    Which means - Upgrade the game engine, textures, changes to how the game plays, new narrative (time skip), while allowing the original game (and all you're progress) to still function within the new game.
    That's literally what every expansion does, minus the time skip.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Myradin View Post
    That's literally what every expansion does, minus the time skip.
    How did you read that and not literally read the next paragraph where I said why it’s different.

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    "Game vs. Game" type threads don't tend to produce much in the way of constructive discussion or debate. Closing this.
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