View Poll Results: Season 2 KSM mount push or no?

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  1. #101
    Mythic + as a pugger in a nutshell. You have all +14's on your character? but no one wants to invite you to a +15 so you can get KSM because you haven't done a +15 yet? wtf? oh, only groups of friends do +15 or more? because they are "hard"? hogwash, easy as can be. This "community" is damn stupid at times, you as well didn't do a +15 at some point too...toxic idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sariengrey View Post
    Mythic + as a pugger in a nutshell. You have all +14's on your character? but no one wants to invite you to a +15 so you can get KSM because you haven't done a +15 yet? wtf? oh, only groups of friends do +15 or more? because they are "hard"? hogwash, easy as can be. This "community" is damn stupid at times, you as well didn't do a +15 at some point too...toxic idiots
    funny how i had no problems doing that... i've pugged all my way to 20s...

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarcube View Post
    funny how i had no problems doing that... i've pugged all my way to 20s...
    Same - don't care about pushing but i did the whole KSM as a pugger. It's annoying, success rate may vary, and especially worth - start immediately. The longer you wait the harder it becomes because most people "expects" players to have reached at least their level the more time it passes. If you try to go with the flow it shouldn't be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldkil View Post
    Even more impressive and/or undoable

    Btw, how did your scores change with the new patch? I found myself at 2022 - didn't do many runs but doing them basically each week until i got KSM meant i did on 14/15/16 each dungeon. So if i do the same this time i can easily do it again, and i'm gonna start already at least at m9 or m10.
    I was 2070 before the patch, 2350 after. Done some keys for teleports this week and am almost 2400 now (not that post-season score matters).
    This is with all 20s, a couple 21s, and a 22 Fort, and most tyrans in the 17-18 range

    According to blizzard they'll reduce keys 3 more than normal,so if you timed a 15 this week,you'll get a 12 next

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    Not unless for some reason I need to ability to upgrade gear from M+.

    With the domination shards I'm hoping I don't need to suffer any needless M+ this season.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    I was 2070 before the patch, 2350 after. Done some keys for teleports this week and am almost 2400 now (not that post-season score matters).
    This is with all 20s, a couple 21s, and a 22 Fort, and most tyrans in the 17-18 range

    According to blizzard they'll reduce keys 3 more than normal,so if you timed a 15 this week,you'll get a 12 next
    Didin't even bother running keys this week i'll just jump into lowbies pugs and just go my way up from there. In the end also gear caps at +10 so perfectly doable - i care more about loot than KSM, but i assue it's gonna be just faster the second season due to various headstarts and the fact i have score from previous season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldkil View Post
    Didin't even bother running keys this week i'll just jump into lowbies pugs and just go my way up from there. In the end also gear caps at +10 so perfectly doable - i care more about loot than KSM, but i assue it's gonna be just faster the second season due to various headstarts and the fact i have score from previous season.
    I don't think blizz score shows for previous season, but I'm not entirely sure.

    And +10 loot is still 229,but I don't think I'll put too much effort into gearing next week, probably just do some 15s for vault and to learn the new affix, then go ham on mythic week for that 236 loot

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    I don't think blizz score shows for previous season, but I'm not entirely sure.

    And +10 loot is still 229,but I don't think I'll put too much effort into gearing next week, probably just do some 15s for vault and to learn the new affix, then go ham on mythic week for that 236 loot
    Yeah, it's more like setting up a base score to make following weeks easier to pug - i assume r.io will show the previous season score, as it has always done (or people can check in the website). In the end the addon has basically adapted to use Blizzard's own score, but still provides an awful lot of more functionalities for who's interested in them.
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  9. #109
    So it seems like KSM is no longer account wide but rather you have to do them on all of your characters. That might be an issue with alts to get upgrades in m+.
    Since KSM is not base on each character score on different dungeons and not just time all +15. Anyone think this is on purpose so people can buy more WoW TOKENS TO PAY FOR RUNS THUS blizzard getting more profit from the sales on WoW tokens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sponge5307 View Post
    So it seems like KSM is no longer account wide but rather you have to do them on all of your characters. That might be an issue with alts to get upgrades in m+.
    Since KSM is not base on each character score on different dungeons and not just time all +15. Anyone think this is on purpose so people can buy more WoW TOKENS TO PAY FOR RUNS THUS blizzard getting more profit from the sales on WoW tokens?
    If you want gear, you have to work for it.. What's wrong with that?

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    If you want gear, you have to work for it.. What's wrong with that?
    Is more like taking flying away WoD. We have it all along and then is gone. The backlash is still here to this day. Since KSM have been account wide with the start of m+ taking away won't sit well with the playerbase.

    I wouldn't be an issue if blizzard can balance the different class/spec but nope. So your main could dip to button tier within a patch and if you want to play another class well good luck grinding all the gear and dungeon points up. At least before with KMS account wide you can get into a higher m+ keys since people know you have done the content in your main and you can upgrade your gear more easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    If you want gear, you have to work for it.. What's wrong with that?
    it shouldn't be account wide if it's not actually account wide...

    if you look at the achievements they lead you to believe it's actually account wide due to the colouration...



    you can pick the title on all characters...
    Last edited by Sugarcube; 2021-07-14 at 05:34 PM.

  13. #113
    Achievments are still account-wide as rewards are account wide.

    It's just M+ gear upgrades which are no longer tied to the achivements, but only to your M+ score - and NOT account-wide. There's different tiers you can unlock, one at 1400 score, and the next one at 1700. Hitting 1500 score gives you one of the achievements, but doesn't unlock any new upgrade tier. Hitting 2000 M+ score gives you the KSM achievement and unlocks the last upgrade tier.

    Anyway getting KSM is way more flexible with Blizzard M+ score now, even depleted keys gives you score, so it's not strictly "exactly one M+15 completed in-time, with both affixes".

  14. #114
    seems like this tier more then ever people will get KSM due to how easy dungeons are after buff. im already doing 13/14s in 220 gear and i ended last tier by doing 16/17s (and thats without gear with sockets buffs from raid , upgrade leggo , unlocked conduits etc etc ) - by the time i will be 250+ i will be probabaly doing +20s

    seems like +20 is meant to be tuned on level of 9.0 +15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naville View Post
    Achievments are still account-wide as rewards are account wide.

    It's just M+ gear upgrades which are no longer tied to the achivements, but only to your M+ score - and NOT account-wide. There's different tiers you can unlock, one at 1400 score, and the next one at 1700. Hitting 1500 score gives you one of the achievements, but doesn't unlock any new upgrade tier. Hitting 2000 M+ score gives you the KSM achievement and unlocks the last upgrade tier.

    Anyway getting KSM is way more flexible with Blizzard M+ score now, even depleted keys gives you score, so it's not strictly "exactly one M+15 completed in-time, with both affixes".
    first upgrades seems to open on 1000 though . thats want upgrade vendor is telling me (have 900 after doing 5 dungeons last reset)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarcube View Post
    it shouldn't be account wide if it's not actually account wide...

    if you look at the achievements they lead you to believe it's actually account wide due to the colouration...

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/xwNod7y.png[img]

    you can pick the title on all characters...
    The achievements are account wide. But the requirement to upgrade isn't "have KSM" anymore, it's "have 2000 score".

    And again, you'd want to do 15s on your alt for gear anyway, so what's the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sponge5307 View Post
    Is more like taking flying away WoD. We have it all along and then is gone. The backlash is still here to this day. Since KSM have been account wide with the start of m+ taking away won't sit well with the playerbase.

    I wouldn't be an issue if blizzard can balance the different class/spec but nope. So your main could dip to button tier within a patch and if you want to play another class well good luck grinding all the gear and dungeon points up. At least before with KMS account wide you can get into a higher m+ keys since people know you have done the content in your main and you can upgrade your gear more easier.
    But with r.io people can still see your main's score. And you're going to do 15s for gear, so you'll get KSM on your alt / new main anyway.
    I really do not see the problem

  16. #116
    Hm. Kinda torn on the fact i need to redo all things again on alts to unlock upgrades. It's mostly due to how valor works - on my main, by the time i have KSM and actual valor to upgrade stuff, very likely i won't need anything from there excluding a couple of outliers maybe (which i'm doubtful about due to raid gear being competitive this time, depending on shards). It was awesome for alts, i could farm valor and get gear and catchup decently fast.

    If i have to do all the score again on each alt, i'll probably won't even play alts. I mean, runnning dungeons would have been a natural path, but i don't see myself reaching 1700 rating on each of them. Until i'm wrong about how difficult it's to reach that, basically.
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  17. #117
    I got the keystone master of BfA, and then quit for months and re-entered with another class that I didn't even bind all the spell yet. In a normal mode 5man a tank whispers: "were you boosted?".

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    I’m not sure how the mount for KSM looks like but I am getting close. It’s quite easy to obtain. Worse will be with finishing 20+ in time. I hope my mage will shape up. Title is available on all characters so is the mount. Gear upgrade as well.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    And again, you'd want to do 15s on your alt for gear anyway, so what's the problem?
    In season 1 when I felt like playing some absolute trash alt I did a +8 to get 216 in vault and upgrade it once to 220. That was nice and didn't require any serious effort other than once in a while chain running some 8s to get more valor. Now these trash alts will not see dungeons anymore. Not really a problem, just a little nuisance that makes me play fewer chars. These trash alts were tanks since I could get a group any time I wanted so they'll probably be missed in the tool. /shrug

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Temp name View Post
    The achievements are account wide. But the requirement to upgrade isn't "have KSM" anymore, it's "have 2000 score".

    And again, you'd want to do 15s on your alt for gear anyway, so what's the problem?

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    But with r.io people can still see your main's score. And you're going to do 15s for gear, so you'll get KSM on your alt / new main anyway.
    I really do not see the problem
    I still have radierio on and for some reason my score for s1 got bump after 9.1...... haven't started doing any m+ yet in S2. Might start tanking some this weekend.

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