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  1. #321
    Quote Originally Posted by Vash The Stampede View Post
    The CDs in my hands disagree with you.

    And they'll do it too.

    TBC is 14 years old and predates it. Hence why people like TBC.

    No it hasn't and you're making things up.
    So much wrong here. First, I didnt say you did not purchase the game in 2007 - i said you did not and cannot purchase it right now. Read what you initially wrote, and what was replied to. Additionally, those CDS are worth exactly nothing without an account to link them to.

    Second, stop bragging about your intention to commit a crime - its really not smart, and all it does is show how petty you are, but your insistence on trying to get a refund of such a small amount could go a long way to explaining why you are so upset about these things. As many others are saying, a lot of the people who are throwing a tantrum about this simply cannot afford the products, and are very jealous about it.

    RAF was introduced in 2008 I believe. Wrath launched in 2008, November from memory. What i cant remember is if RaF was introduced before or after wrath launch.

    I really would stop bragging about committing fraud - talking about illegal activities is against the rules on this site. I see in a response to someone else that you very smugly brag about committing fraud "all the time" - not a smart idea.

    To be fair, i think this quote says everything there is to know about you:

    Quote Originally Posted by Vash The Stampede View Post

    I know how fraud works but I don't give a damn. I give so little damn that I accuse you of fraud without any proof, rhyme, or reason behind it.
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  2. #322
    Quote Originally Posted by Arganis View Post
    Great dude but that’s fucking juvenile and stupid.
    So that's juvenile and has absolutely NO impact but whining about that juvenile behavior online isn't also inn the same boat? What? Also, op is clearly proving it does have at least some impact by virtue of creating a thread at all... So what of you think it's juvenile? I think it's juvenile to get your jimmies rustled over someone /spitting on you in a game.

  3. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by Vash The Stampede View Post

    Have you not noticed the game declined rapidly after WOTLK? It was always an issue but most people just ignored the fact that it turned people off from the game and left. It isn't the micro-transactons, it's the children who are wrong.
    You are making a surprising error here - for someone so committed to this argument, you really should look into causation vs correlation, because you are embarrassingly confusing the two.
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  4. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by lonely zergling View Post
    I only do it for the completely in green geared "fresh from the printer" heroes who ruin your bg expierence by being useless. If enough report they get removed rather quickly or atleast get the "hey you are afk-debuff" which ironically many dont manage to get off them before being kicked (aka they are afk for real (or bots..))

    Whats wrong with using a service that is provided within the game like report afk?

    We need a weakaura for this that detects every boosted andy and lets everyone know that someone reported them so we can get rid of the trash easier.
    Misusing the reporting system should be punished.

  5. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by lonely zergling View Post
    I only do it for the completely in green geared "fresh from the printer" heroes who ruin your bg expierence by being useless. If enough report they get removed rather quickly or atleast get the "hey you are afk-debuff" which ironically many dont manage to get off them before being kicked (aka they are afk for real (or bots..))

    Whats wrong with using a service that is provided within the game like report afk?

    We need a weakaura for this that detects every boosted andy and lets everyone know that someone reported them so we can get rid of the trash easier.
    Maybe you should read the Code of Conduct.

    Link (see Behaviors, paragraph 2): https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/42673

    While we encourage you to report players that are behaving in a disrespectful manner, falsely reporting another player with the sole intent of restricting their gameplay is also unacceptable and will result in penalties to your account.
    That should answer your question about “what’s wrong with falsely reporting people I don’t like so they can’t play”.

  6. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by Nite92 View Post
    Misusing the reporting system should be punished.
    Thankfully, it is.
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  7. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertColvert View Post
    It's called jealousy
    i think disgust is the word you are looking for.

    I very much doubt these ppl want to have that mount, they loath it.
    None of us really changes over time. We only become more fully what we are.

  8. #328
    Quote Originally Posted by otaXephon View Post
    Do you actually think this? Like, in your heart of hearts, do you actually think that Classic is supposed to be some monetization-free "DAE OLD BLIZZARD GOOD NEW BLIZZARD BAD" safe haven? Because I promise you Blizzard doesn't give a fuck and if you're continuing to give a company that you disagree with on such a fundamental level money than you're part of the reason they keep pulling shit like this. Either all of it's okay or none of it's okay.
    The funny part is he actually thinks this way and at the same time has admitted to only playing classic for a week total lol.
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    Trust me.

    Zyky is better than you.

  9. #329
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash The Stampede View Post
    Misery loves company.

    I bought the product back in 2007, so I ain't returning nothing. The service is why I'm refunding and it sucks. Assuming they push for Tokens.

    Micro-transactions suck and I'm not going to be a part of it. Please join the cause.
    Do virtual pixels that dont affect you at all hurt you so much? You know, collectors edition collectables, something that exist since literally vanilla, but for some reason NOW are bad.


    You should really start thinking for yourself and watch less asmontard.
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    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

  10. #330
    Most of these guys complaining that people bought the boost... also buy gold, and pay mages and pallys to boost them. Hypocrites.

  11. #331
    Quote Originally Posted by BetrayedOf52 View Post
    Most of these guys complaining that people bought the boost... also buy gold, and pay mages and pallys to boost them. Hypocrites.
    Just last week watched a guy endlessly whine about the boost killing the game, it's about the journey, this isn't the classic they promised us, not everyone can afford boosts! You know, usual stuff.

    Next day he had managed to level like, twice max. Mate was boosting me through some dungeons I had quests for, and that exact same guy paid to join. One of the other guys paying for a boost recognized his name from the multi-hour bitch session the day before. Asked how he could afford the boost: "I just bought some gold - it's LITERALLY the only way to level now".
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  12. #332
    Quote Originally Posted by Delia Verana View Post
    Even in the remote Hillsbrad, where I work as an innkeeeper, I have seen a lot of truly disgusting behaviour. I have received mail from my dear friends in Orgrimmar about a worrying trend of people attacking other heroes of their own kind. I did not believe it to be this bad 'till I saw it myself.

    THEY ARE SPITTING ON OTHERS! Using all manner of derogatory slurs to insult others. Just because... they are riding a warp stalker? Hmm, I don't know about you but such childish fools are for sure banned from resting in my inn!


    For real though, don't be dumb. /spit is one thing, making it automatic is another but going in with whispers and /s on other players' simple purchase is in my opinion and should be a bannable offense. I mean how do you justify it, I am curious? Keeping the hate on the forums is fine I guess but going after other players in game should not be tolerated. You don't like the existence of the deluxe edition, cool, but is this the way to show it?

    I really do hope something is done about this. A statement would be brave and it would fuel the fire for sure, but I do not see any justification to harass the players who decided to use their own money on something Blizzard offered them. Keep it cool, rest assured I have a fast copypasta ready for a report when ever I see these heroes. Just don't be dumb.
    its poor people being jealous about those who can afford it.

    just ignore them .

  13. #333
    To me, the people spitting/harassing those with the deluxe mount are akin to vegans protesting a kids animal farm/petting zoo screaming meat is murder at them.
    It's never going to turn any of them vegan, and only ends up discrediting the screaming participants as unhinged nutcases to everyone else.

    Better to leave the deluxies alone, put the effort into something constructive rather than simply making yourself look like a twit.


    Also, we forget that towards the later part of TBC the recruit a friend system came in, with the bonus zhevra mount.. So Microtransactions for vanity items were a thing in TBC, as 90% of the people who used RAF just made themselves a second account for the mount and boosting a second character (through towing) rather than actually ever recruiting anyone.

  14. #334
    Quote Originally Posted by korijenkins View Post
    Yeaaah gonna go ahead and call bs on that one. Never have I seen anything close to jealousy related to a store mount.
    Your selective observations don't mean that they did not witness something.

  15. #335
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    its poor people being jealous about those who can afford it.

    just ignore them .
    I find assumption that everyone who dislikes those features does not have the disposeable income to purchase those completely retarded.

    First off, WoW due to its sub fee is pretty much one of the most expensive games on the market if one does not include MTX, making it in itself already more of a "luxury" game in that aspect.
    Second, the Classic audience in particular is likely slightly more aged, probably around 30, meaning those aren't kids who need to ask their parents for money.

    This is such a childish logic to assume that only people complain about something is because they cannot afford it, in a game that frankly is already way too fucking expensive for people that have barely any disposeable income.
    Quote Originally Posted by diarx View Post
    Also, we forget that towards the later part of TBC the recruit a friend system came in, with the bonus zhevra mount.. So Microtransactions for vanity items were a thing in TBC, as 90% of the people who used RAF just made themselves a second account for the mount and boosting a second character (through towing) rather than actually ever recruiting anyone.
    I find this also a strange logic, why not just simply *reintroduce* the same thing?
    That way, Blizzard would avoid all controversy, i doubt you'll have the same debate once they add the store & pets in Wotlk, simply because that's were when those were added back then.

    Like, be real, do you really think Blizzard actually feels the urge to justify the deluxe edition other than pure profit?
    As if Blizzard sat there and said "oh, TBC had X and Y, that's why we feel comfortable to add something completely different!", if the Deluxe edition featured nothing but the Netherwing pet (like the TBC CE), i do not believe there would be much of a controversy.

    C'mon, the sole reason why Classic didn't have anything similiar is because Blizzard didn't believe there would be anyone but a handful of people playing it.
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  17. #337
    Quote Originally Posted by Zypherz View Post
    I'm curious, can someone that supports these micro-transactions deem where they draw the line?

    For me, buying a level boost is as much of an advantage as buying CE or glad is, as at the end of the day you're paying to skip time and effort; And I genuinely believe that the average person can achieve Gladiator in less time /played than level 60 in classic/TBC if they actually want it.

    What would be the line? Is there one? I don't even see buying gear as 'worse' than buying levels tbh.
    I would draw the line at direct power increases at max level. For example store bought gear that's comparable to upper ilvls, end game achievement etc etc. Anything that interfere with the end game loop essentially.


    On another note. Lots of people outing themselves being a shitty person by defending bad behaviour. Justifying treating others badly is weird... Be kind.
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  18. #338
    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    How you pay2win in retail? Enlighten me please.
    People seems to have made the mental bridge that the wow token exists for Blizzard to make more money while giving players money to buy boosts and BoEs, ergo P2W.
    The most difficult thing for people to do is objectively look at something they don't like and be able to accept that it is not bad, that other people like it, and if it was changed to the way they'd like it that other people would not like it and want it changed back. The second most is to receive something they didn't want or ask for and be grateful for it, not immediately demand what they wanted instead.

  19. #339
    Only poor people hate on deluxe players. Need a handkerchief? You can buy one from me <3

    I really love the fact, that on my server people cry because they see a warpstalker but they themselfs bought a level boost. How do I know? I boosted some of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Deal with it, it was part of the package.
    Player abuse and behavior is not any part of a fucking package. It's on the player and Blizzard doesn't need to take any responsibility for it except to enforce their own rules.
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