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  1. #561
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    If you don't believe you are making people feel at least uneasy, then why are you doing it in the first place? To make them happy? It's either one or another man.

    Full hypocrisy on display. Either be a full time asshole and admit that you're trying to bully people for whatever reason, or don't talk BS.



    I was actually thinking about this myself, and whether this emote should even be in the game at all, and I think there are certain RP-related and consensual contexts that it could work. But seeing the community in wow is so toxic maybe it would be better to remove any such emotes.
    Or you know... maybe think about how the world has evolved from casually laughing this off 17 years back to now being triggered by a /spit.

  2. #562
    Quote Originally Posted by WaltherLeopold View Post
    Your strawman is lit.

    For the record, i'm not spitting on anyone, i'm spitting on virtual characters in a videogame. You really ought to detach yourself from your online persona.
    I don't attach myself to an online persona, I know you're not spitting on anyone IRL, but some can debate that doing something of the sort online can be just as bad. That's why the term cyber-bullying was coined.

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    the best thing we can do about this, is buy MORE micro transaction when they come. so we get more, and more, and more. keep these cry babies in their basements lmfao

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    I went through this exact same thing when MoP launched and I made a Blood Elf Monk. I was even kicked from most groups I joined for dungeons.
    If what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. Then I should be a god by now.

  5. #565
    Quote Originally Posted by WaltherLeopold View Post
    It's not hypocrisy, i've outright said I don't want you playing my videogame. Making people feel bad or uneasy isn't a sign of emotional immaturity.
    Is never ok to ask your audience to harass other people.
    You know why?
    There is bound to be a maniac or a stupid person on your followers who will decide to go the extra mile.

    Example:
    If Asmongold tells his entire followerbase to spam someone with dog images in social media because he/she is a bitch (female dog)

    Is only a matter of time until disaster happens because someone decided to do something "extra"

    Never...ever...ever...ever...tell other people to harass someone (-_-) common sense

  6. #566
    Quote Originally Posted by OokOok View Post
    I think this is hilarious, I love this snowflake world we live in. How an emote in a game that's existed for 17 years can trigger people so much is just.......I love it.

    People need to get out more, it's as if they themselves in real life are being spit on. You kids need to learn to detatch yourself from your characters in game. Let me ask you, when someone kills you in pvp do you call 911 to report a murder?
    It's almost as funny as the people who think they're fighting the power, teaching blizzard or these players some kind of lesson. The idea that this is something worth protesting against is funny, but that people are paying blizzard while they protest people paying more is hilarious.

  7. #567
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    I don't think you understand what "being a judge in your own case" even is.
    If you argue that people should be able to weigh how much they've been wronged by another person, you violate that principle, because others need to judge it, not themselves.

    You can dance around it all you like, that doesn't make false.
    If someone goes up to you and says "I don't like you!" and you develop a depression because of it, you won't find a court that's going to take action against this person, no matter how much go on how horribly he wronged you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    because their goal is to make someone feel bad for making the purchase. You arguing against that makes completely no sense in this context.
    Yes, and?
    The same way someone can walk up to me that i should feel bad for wearing blue T-Shirts, because he doesn't like them.
    I just shrug and move on, the intent in both instances is the same.

  8. #568
    Quote Originally Posted by WaltherLeopold View Post
    It's not hypocrisy, i've outright said I don't want you playing my videogame. Making people feel bad or uneasy isn't a sign of emotional immaturity or believing in conspiracy theories lol.

    Should add, i'm not making anyone feel anyhow, taking offense to being spat on in a videogame is a choice.
    Making people want to feel bad means you're a dick, plain and simple. And also, making people feel bad is harassment. Glad you finally admitted it. You spent a lot of time here arguing that people who think /spit is a form or harassment are somehow wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delever View Post
    Or you know... maybe think about how the world has evolved from casually laughing this off 17 years back to now being triggered by a /spit.
    There will always be people that will laugh it off, potentially the vast majority, but there will also always be (and always have been) people who will feel hurt. This has not changed. The only thing that changes, and it's a good thing, is that these days more and more people are starting to acknowledge that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    If you argue that people should be able to weigh how much they've been wronged by another person, you violate that principle, because others need to judge it, not themselves.

    You can dance around it all you like, that doesn't make false.
    If someone goes up to you and says "I don't like you!" and you develop a depression because of it, you won't find a court that's going to take action against this person, no matter how much go on how horribly he wronged you.

    Yes, and?
    The same way someone can walk up to me that i should feel bad for wearing blue T-Shirts, because he doesn't like them.
    I just shrug and move on, the intent in both instances is the same.
    Not everything in life follows the rules set for courts and the legal system and not everything can be solved with a law of country X. A person can definitely bully another person in ways that would escape the justice system - would that mean the person is not being a dick and a bully? Of course not. The difference between law of a country and rules in a game is that the latter can be more easily changed. And should be, if there's such a need.

    Also - sure, saying something completely harmless and wearing a t-shirt is the same as an act of clearly targeted harassment that everyone in their right mind (including the people doing it) acknowledges as harassment. I'm clearly walking out of this thread with a much-much longer ignore-list, that's for sure
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  9. #569
    I think I’m most surprised that anyone still has emotes showing in their chat window anyway.

  10. #570
    "wahh wahh people are emoting at me, ban them blizzard QQ"

    Really? Get a thicker skin.

  11. #571
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Making people want to feel bad means you're a dick, plain and simple. And also, making people feel bad is harassment. Glad you finally admitted it. You spent a lot of time here arguing that people who think /spit is a form or harassment are somehow wrong.



    There will always be people that will laugh it off, potentially the vast majority, but there will also always be (and always have been) people who will feel hurt. This has not changed. The only thing that changes, and it's a good thing, is that these days more and more people are starting to acknowledge that.
    So just so we are all on the same page here because I feel like I m going insane. We are talking about people using the /spit emote without following up with whispers/death threats etc which is actual harassment correct? And also choosing to not group with said people without telling them anything or cursing etc?
    Because a lot of you here are hard virtue signaling in your attempt to gain moral points in 2021 by validating every insanely sensitive reaction people have. This is actually incredibly belittling and disrespectful to actual victims of harassment and does more to harm them than actually helping. If people are getting legitimately hurt over a random in WoW /spitting on them they need to seek help and I m saying this not to "victim blame" but because they actually need help to function in this world.

  12. #572
    Quote Originally Posted by The Oblivion View Post
    the best thing we can do about this, is buy MORE micro transaction when they come. so we get more, and more, and more. keep these cry babies in their basements lmfao
    "haha I'm blowing hundreds of dollars on virtual pixels, u mad?"

    Yikes.

  13. #573
    I spit on any1 that ganks me if your 60 killing my lvl 30 i am gunna spit on you hell id spit on you in real life given the chance lol i could careless about ppl spitting on me over a mount tho sorry your poor son kek.

  14. #574
    Quote Originally Posted by Zypherz View Post

    Frankly, I'm surprised more people haven't asked for gear boosts. After all, having gear doesn't mean you can clear the content right? Why do you care if someone else has BIS gear, how does it affect you (/s)? Gear is an inevitability in the same way that max level is if you just play the game. The big difference being that having 60 levels on a player has much more impact than having a few item levels does.
    Goodness gracious this disingenuous slippery slope is as tired today as it was when people first started claiming the sky was falling when they put the celestial steed on the store. And those stupid hats. Has the sky fallen?

  15. #575
    Quote Originally Posted by perkocet View Post
    Goodness gracious this disingenuous slippery slope is as tired today as it was when people first started claiming the sky was falling when they put the celestial steed on the store. And those stupid hats. Has the sky fallen?
    Has it not gotten far worse?

  16. #576
    Quote Originally Posted by Delever View Post
    Has it not gotten far worse?
    Please link me to the BIS gear you can get off the Blizzard Shop. I have all day so take your time!

  17. #577
    Quote Originally Posted by perkocet View Post
    Please link me to the BIS gear you can get off the Blizzard Shop. I have all day so take your time!
    >Purchase token
    >Sell for gold
    >Buy Mythic Nathria loot run

    There ya go

  18. #578
    Quote Originally Posted by Azerate View Post
    Making people want to feel bad means you're a dick, plain and simple. And also, making people feel bad is harassment. Glad you finally admitted it. You spent a lot of time here arguing that people who think /spit is a form or harassment are somehow wrong.
    Harassment, really? I see it as PvP tbh. Just like ganking someone in felwood, /spitting on you, makes you my content.

  19. #579
    Quote Originally Posted by Delever View Post
    >Purchase token
    >Sell for gold
    >Buy Mythic Nathria loot run

    There ya go
    How is this linking what I asked you to? I love the quick and confident response though.

  20. #580
    Quote Originally Posted by Delever View Post
    Has it not gotten far worse?
    It has, because the people who are mad about it do stupid shit like this instead of taking a meaningful action, like quitting the game and telling blizzard why, then sticking to that.

    If they lost players in droves to game store stuff they'd stop, but instead you fools drum up controversy, draw more attention to their paid services, make buying store mounts some kind of moral issue people can stand on both sides of (which I'm betting helps sales more than hurts), and keep right on paying them.

    And in like a week you poor things will run out of steam and move on to whatever the next thing you want to ineffectually protest is.

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