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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    Again, point to a leader of the nation who can't speak English. I'll wait.
    What is the point you think you're trying to make?

    Being multilingual doesn't mean you don't speak English.

    The only person here who clearly doesn't understand English is you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Fun fact, outside Mexico, US has the second largest Spanish speaking population in the world. And in a generation US is expected to pass Mexico.
    is that when our greatest fear of a taco truck on every street corner comes true? I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    is that when our greatest fear of a taco truck on every street corner comes true? I hope so.
    I'm still pretty pissed this "threat" never came to pass. My sleepy little town doesn't have a single decent Mexican food joint (Taco Bell, kek) and I'd absolutely LOVE to be able to walk to the corner and pick up some chicken taco's for lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm still pretty pissed this "threat" never came to pass. My sleepy little town doesn't have a single decent Mexican food joint (Taco Bell, kek) and I'd absolutely LOVE to be able to walk to the corner and pick up some chicken taco's for lunch.
    Tacos are great and all, but what you really want is a tamale truck. The food diversity (and quality) is what I truly miss about my visits to Louisiana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm still pretty pissed this "threat" never came to pass. My sleepy little town doesn't have a single decent Mexican food joint (Taco Bell, kek) and I'd absolutely LOVE to be able to walk to the corner and pick up some chicken taco's for lunch.
    Imagine having to eat food that is more than just boiled meat and porridge with salt. THE HORROR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Imagine having to eat food that is more than just boiled meat and porridge with salt. THE HORROR.
    Or shitty pizza drenched in grease covered with ranch dressing. People in the Midwest have a strange obsession with ranch dressing. They cover everything in that shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Tacos are great and all, but what you really want is a tamale truck. The food diversity (and quality) is what I truly miss about my visits to Louisiana.
    I'm gonna need to lose some weight before I go back to Louisiana, to accommodate what I'm sure to gain.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    I'm gonna need to lose some weight before I go back to Louisiana, to accommodate what I'm sure to gain.
    Man, I hear that. Not only does my family down there try to fatten me up when I visit, they also load me up to the brim with food to take home. Not that you have to twist my arm into taking a box of fresh tamales and boudin home or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Or shitty pizza drenched in grease covered with ranch dressing. People in the Midwest have a strange obsession with ranch dressing. They cover everything in that shit.
    Ranch? Ew. Go bleu cheese or go home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    What is the point you think you're trying to make?

    Being multilingual doesn't mean you don't speak English.

    The only person here who clearly doesn't understand English is you.
    The point is you can be multilingual but the main language of the country is English and always will be, and as much as you dislike Anglo-Saxon people they will be the largest group in the country for as long as we are alive. So like I said in my first post if you don't like it, leave. Your post was anti Anglo-Saxon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    The point is you can be multilingual but the main language of the country is English
    That's nice. Still doesn't make it the official language, though.

    and always will be
    Just like the main language of the Roman Empire was always Latin. /s

    Y'all do realise the entire point behind the push for linguistic uniformity is the eradication of dissident cultural and ethnic minorities, yeah? And that it's a bad thing?
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    The point is you can be multilingual but the main language of the country is English and always will be
    And the secondary language is Spanish, and likely always will be. Your point?

    and as much as you dislike Anglo-Saxon people they will be the largest group in the country for as long as we are alive.
    That's just, like, obviously false.

    Non-Hispanic whites make up something like 60% of the population of the USA.
    Of that, the biggest national origin is German. Next is Irish, and third is English, with a whopping 9% of the total population. And "English" is not 100% Anglo-Saxon, as there's a lot of Norman French and Celt in there as well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

    Anglo-Saxons have never been the primary ethnic group in the USA, and there is zero indication that their numbers are about to explode.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Just like the main language of the Roman Empire was always Latin. /s
    I've lost count of how many times have I seen Julius Caesar quoted in Latin when he was actually speaking these famous quotes in Greek to his Greek speaking troops. Thanks Suetonius.

    Segue back to the thread topic, languages can coexist, use the one appropriate to the situation, don't let ignorance drive you to try and exterminate one or falsely proclaim one "official" when it isn't. You can't really play the victim in a culture war while still fighting it and proclaiming linguistic dominance.
    /s

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    Cajuns? I'm not very familiar with them but my internet search has painted a picture for me:

    -Swamp experts, masters of the bayou.

    -Food: spicy. I'm skeptical of food with a lot of spice because I feel like they are trying to hide something behind strong flavors or it overpowers the main ingredient, but I'm willing to try it. When I hear "Cajun" the crawfish and catfish pop into my head. Apparently Cajun food staples are green bell pepper, celery, carrots, and onions. Corn and cornbread.

    -They like to have fun, party, and play games. I guess Mardi Gras is part of their culture? I've always loved seeing pictures of this event because they have nice colors and cool apparel like masks and beads. It's kind of gaudy but I kind of like gaudy.

    -High hospitality. A lot of places in the world have a "low trust" culture where it's prudent to be skeptical of helping people that are outside of your inner circle. It seems it is not an issue for Cajuns.

    -Slower pace of life. They can relax and don't have to be wound up all the time. California culture might be considered more of a "rat race" in comparison. It's great for lowering stress but I could also see it leading to a lack of ambition. I think most people struggle with balancing the two attitudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    -Food: spicy. I'm skeptical of food with a lot of spice because I feel like they are trying to hide something behind strong flavors or it overpowers the main ingredient, but I'm willing to try it. When I hear "Cajun" the crawfish and catfish pop into my head. Apparently Cajun food staples are green bell pepper, celery, carrots, and onions. Corn and cornbread.
    This is a common misconception about Cajun dishes. Cayenne and Black Pepper is the source of most of the heat in Cajun food and it's added for flavor, not to make it hot as hell. In terms of spice level, Tai and Indian food is way hotter, in my experience. I'm sure there are Cajun chefs and cooks that like their food spicy, but adding heat for heat's sake isn't the point, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xjev View Post
    yeah I worded it a bit bad, what I meant was being against separationist sort of mindset, I like preserving cultures, languages etc. I understand its a bit of a challenge. What I meant was modern France which what it is trying to do is avoid creating lets say a Black neighborhood, a Jewish neighborhood. My understanding is that they push everyone to be just "French" and speak the same language as main language, and live together. So every other trait is just a personal trait which is compatible with everyone. Maybe I am wrong, its a complex issue. And USA is a totally different beast.
    You are overall right, though it does not always work but the goal is to avoid cultural or racial ghetto. You are first and foremost French, everything else comes second.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarcube View Post
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    Of the USA? I said the nation, meaning USA not a nation.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    Wrong. Take China, where there are 2 versions of Chinese, Mandarin is becoming the dominant type over Cantonese, and people are being encouraged to know Mandarin. Cantonese speakers are worried about it. English is official language of America, with or without a law. Let me know when the president, or even a senator cant speak English, I'll wait. Not thinking a common language unites people is just so wrong and not even worth arguing with you, its like saying stars aren't hot.
    No it isn't.

    That's just blind, ignorant racism at work right here.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    And the secondary language is Spanish, and likely always will be. Your point?



    That's just, like, obviously false.

    Non-Hispanic whites make up something like 60% of the population of the USA.
    Of that, the biggest national origin is German. Next is Irish, and third is English, with a whopping 9% of the total population. And "English" is not 100% Anglo-Saxon, as there's a lot of Norman French and Celt in there as well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

    Anglo-Saxons have never been the primary ethnic group in the USA, and there is zero indication that their numbers are about to explode.
    You understand terms change over time right? Originally Anglo-Saxon were the German inhabitants of England In like the middle ages. now to most people when referring to Americans it means white English-speaking people.

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