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The same reason why you keep wasting time? Because you want to. Just because I am fine with some forms of pay to win doesn't mean I'm fine with people using it incorrectly. Why do you think a person can't be fine with pay to win when labeling things as pay to win? You keep trying to imply that I am doing something bad by discussing the same as anyone else. Weird right?
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And what am I doing? I have been consistent on what I consider pay to win to be this entire time. Paying real money for an advantage. In this thread I have said WoW is pay to win with level boosts and that it is not with the token. That hasn't changed.
Last edited by rhorle; 2021-06-11 at 10:58 PM.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
FOMO: "Fear Of Missing Out", also commonly known as people with a mental issue of managing time and activities, many expecting others to fit into their schedule so they don't miss out on things to come. If FOMO becomes a problem for you, do seek help, it can be a very unhealthy lifestyle..
Shadowlands is the worst expansion of all time. I don't think there's a feasibly way to ignore this reality anymore. I've never seen the perception of an expansion degrade so fast within half a year timeframe.
It doesn't just come down to the content anymore, but the state of the community and this absolute festering state of boosting and botting within the playerbase. People frequently shit on WoD because it had only 1 content patch and Garrisons were crap but the game was actually fairly playable and tight gameplay-wise compared to this nightmare of an expansion.
Devs have lost the plot. At this point I have 0 faith in the game being good again and fully expect 10.0 to be another flop because:
1.) The devs are very clearly out-of-touch.
2.) The game is not a change or two away from being good. It's 100+ changes away.
I'd say BFA was worse because of how terrible corruptions were and how many different things you had to do if you wanted to min-max.
But yeah, Shadowlands degraded QUICKLY. It felt great at the start but the time gating of Covenants and Soul-Ash gating of Torghast just feels terrible.
I'm playing TBC Classic right now. If I want to improve my character, I can log in and do something to do that. And farming attunements actually feels better than any farming I have to do in retail, because the rep comes pretty naturally while doing dungeons for XP and gear (or other attunements).
There is no "that's that for this week" that you get after a single day of playing.
FOMO: "Fear Of Missing Out", also commonly known as people with a mental issue of managing time and activities, many expecting others to fit into their schedule so they don't miss out on things to come. If FOMO becomes a problem for you, do seek help, it can be a very unhealthy lifestyle..
Yes, big time pay to win, for everyone except the top tier players.
It is in a sense. You can skip leveling and buy gold. Its not as blatent as some cash shops, but there are p2w elements.
I find it a positive change. Means that, by discussion, people are actually zoning in on the concept and giving it a name that people can generally agree with.
"P2W" is definitely a giant umbrella, with multiple shades of severity - and it's probably why the topic is so divisive.
Right now, very much so.
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Uhh... 91 pages but gonna ask once again(no one answered, I have my doubts whether you will either)
1. They are carries, which means you are boosted aka no need to contribute at all, or it’s a minimal contribution. You can get people to play any game for you. For example, super mario, street fighter, cs, tetris etcetc.
2. They are services made by players, which means you can also offer something else than gold and money, but for example bodyparts. For example, I will sell you glad title for a specific body part, but it does not make this game ”sell body part to win”.
3. If I pay these carries/boosters more gold/money to not boost you, you do not gain the boost, which kind of doesnt make sense if it’s pay to win.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/sanctum...Y68hOR-ERfkDaw
Oh no! Blizzard is reducing the number of slots for BoE items in 9.1!
Are they going mad? Don't they understand that WoW is P2W? How are they going to sell more tokens now?!
The drama commences!
Yeah just joking. Or not, I don't know. One thing's for sure - this doesn't bode well for BoE cash shop in the nearest future. What a shame, really.
EDIT: And if that's not enough, they also think about decreasing BoEs drop rates. Seriously, Blizz?!
Last edited by Rageonit; 2021-06-14 at 10:51 AM.
You arent buying POWER you are buying currency. Then you have to rely on players willing to do things for you for that currency. It is 100% the playerbase giving you "power" not Blizzard. Thus it does not meet the criteria. And you dont have to buy tokens to get gold. In fact for people who really want to make money, tokens are one of the most inefficient and expensive routes to do so. You can make substantially more money in game then buying tokens.