1. #1461
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    I read the whole thing for free. Use your bootstraps.
    Good for you, paywalled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  2. #1462
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Good for you, paywalled.
    Get rich, boy!
    Users with <20 posts and ignored shitposters are automatically invisible. Find out how to do that here and help clean up MMO-OT!
    PSA: Being a volunteer is no excuse to make a shite job of it.

  3. #1463
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You mean the guy you lied about, and said he gets paid in stocks as part of his salary? Yeah, I think this means you have nothing left to argue about.

    Do you want me to dredge up that lie, again? I have the evidence. What are capital gains?
    That's NOT a denial.
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

  4. #1464
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Good for you, paywalled.
    A smarter person would've just did this:
    https://www.google.com/search?client...y+tax+shelters

  5. #1465
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Get rich, boy!
    Or, I can simply dismiss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    That's NOT a denial.
    Well, considering you have been caught lying so many times, I figured a denial was entirely unnecessary.

    Very well, I deny your blatant lie... just like all your other lies you've posted in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    A smarter person would've just did this:
    https://www.google.com/search?client...y+tax+shelters
    And link a paywalled article.

    What exactly in that article would you like to discuss?

    After all, you guys have been bitching that home-equity loans are tax free.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  6. #1466
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Well, considering you have been caught lying so many times, I figured a denial was entirely unnecessary.

    Very well, I deny your blatant lie... just like all your other lies in this thread.
    What blatant lie are you denying, the Bezos poster above your bed? I didn't state it as fact. Is it because its not Bezos or it is Bezos but its not over bed?
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

  7. #1467
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    What blatant lie are you denying, the Bezos poster above your bed? I didn't state it as fact. Is it because its not Bezos or it is Bezos but its not over bed?
    The one you just made, the one you said wasn't a denial.

    You ever find out how many stocks they paid Jeff Bezos in his salary?

    I mean, I love that you have resorted to outright shitposting, because your attempts to argue the issues failed so miserably. That's what happens when your entire argument is based on a lie. Once your initial lie was pointed out, nothing else you said made any sense at all.

    Now, the real question is, why did you choose to lie? Did you think you wouldn't be caught?
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  8. #1468
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    And link a paywalled article.

    What exactly in that article would you like to discuss?

    After all, you guys have been bitching that home-equity loans are tax free.
    One of the advantages of having a decent memory is that sometimes you recall something you read years ago and you remember key details like "Walton Family Tax Shelter". You then go to Google and then get a tonne of stuff so you can get specifics. I linked the first article at the top of the search which was free. You're more than welcome to do the same search. If you like you can add "Jackie O. Trust" for additional detail.

    And more to the point, it was for everyone else. You'll probably think that the Trusts are a great idea that anyone can use especially after you've started your own multi-billion dollar company.

  9. #1469
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    One of the advantages of having a decent memory is that sometimes you recall something you read years ago and you remember key details like "Walton Family Tax Shelter". You then go to Google and then get a tonne of stuff so you can get specifics. I linked the first article at the top of the search which was free. You're more than welcome to do the same search. If you like you can add "Jackie O. Trust" for additional detail.

    And more to the point, it was for everyone else. You'll probably think that the Trusts are a great idea that anyone can use especially after you've started your own multi-billion dollar company.
    So, exactly what do you want to discuss?

    It wasn't free for me, I'm getting a paywall.

    So, you're a Brit? I had no idea.

    Looking at that, closing the "loophole" would generate $2 billion a year in tax revenue, not from the Waltons, for literally the entire country. Is this the massive tax you're talking about?
    Last edited by Machismo; 2021-06-11 at 01:25 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  10. #1470
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    local trumper libertarian
    He's not a libertarian, he's a conservative.

  11. #1471
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    He's not a libertarian, he's a conservative.
    How exactly am I not a libertarian?
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  12. #1472
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The one you just made, the one you said wasn't a denial.

    You ever find out how many stocks they paid Jeff Bezos in his salary?

    I mean, I love that you have resorted to outright shitposting, because your attempts to argue the issues failed so miserably. That's what happens when your entire argument is based on a lie. Once your initial lie was pointed out, nothing else you said made any sense at all.

    Now, the real question is, why did you choose to lie? Did you think you wouldn't be caught?
    Your post wasn't a denial that you had a Bezos poster over your bed. That wasn't a lie because you didn't deny it. In fact, you haven't denied it yet. Now again, I'm not saying you do, I'm saying I bet you do. So I'm not lying and so far, since you haven't denied it, I think I'm winning the bet.
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

  13. #1473
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, exactly what do you want to discuss?
    I was just providing an example to another post of how the Walton family evaded Estate and Gift taxes. There's some shadiness regarding Income and Capitol gains taxes as well.

    The only plus side to this is that Walmart does pay a lot of Corporate Tax. Its hard to avoid but its balanced against how they try to engage in a lot of Property Tax evasion and are one of America's most egregious committers of Wage Theft. This wage theft does require their employees to use government services they shouldn't need.

  14. #1474
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Your post wasn't a denial that you had a Bezos poster over your bed. That wasn't a lie because you didn't deny it. In fact, you haven't denied it yet. Now again, I'm not saying you do, I'm saying I bet you do. So I'm not lying and so far, since you haven't denied it, I think I'm winning the bet.
    I literally denied it. Here, I'm denying it again.

    Well, since you bet, you lose that bet. Now, you can pay me.

    So, why did you lie so many times in this thread? Any failure to answer that question will be taken as an admission you simply don't know what oyu're talking about, so you decided to lie your way through it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  15. #1475
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    He's not a libertarian, he's a conservative.
    No difference.
    Have you heard Rand Paul talk? It's identical to most GOPers.

  16. #1476
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    I was just providing an example to another post of how the Walton family evaded Estate and Gift taxes. There's some shadiness regarding Income and Capitol gains taxes as well.

    The only plus side to this is that Walmart does pay a lot of Corporate Tax. Its hard to avoid but its balanced against how they try to engage in a lot of Property Tax evasion and are one of America's most egregious committers of Wage Theft. This wage theft does require their employees to use government services they shouldn't need.
    Everything they did was not only legal, it was literally opening up a museum.

    As for the "shadiness" over income and capital gains, that shit was thumped down so many times, it's almost criminal to keep slapping you with that.

    That's the problem when people don't know what capital gains, and income even are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  17. #1477
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    No difference.
    Have you heard Rand Paul talk? It's identical to most GOPers.
    a libertarian, a pedophile and a fascist walk into a bar, the bartender says 'what can i get you to drink sir'.

  18. #1478
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    I read the whole thing for free. Use your bootstraps.
    Hmm..

    “We shouldn’t have a situation where gimmicks allow rich people to avoid estate taxation,” Gates’ father, William Gates Sr., said in an interview. “A value in our lives is having children who make their own way to some extent.”

    ------

    Always heard the late patriarch would have been ashamed at how his wealth is being used today.

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    Estate and gift taxes raised about $14 billion last year. That’s about 1 percent of the $1.2 trillion passed down in America each year, mostly by the very rich, former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers estimated in a December blog post. “Our estate tax system is broken,” he wrote.

  19. #1479
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    How exactly am I not a libertarian?
    "I've always been a conservative"

  20. #1480
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Everything they did was not only legal, it was literally opening up a museum.

    As for the "shadiness" over income and capital gains, that shit was thumped down so many times, it's almost criminal to keep slapping you with that.

    That's the problem when people don't know what capital gains, and income even are.
    Their museums only exist because its a convenient way to grow their fortune without paying any form of tax on it.

    Its only legal because the wealthy want it to be legal. This is something they can do that the rest of us can't. The Sackler family in part caused the opoid epidemic. Legally. That doesn't mean it was a moral idea.

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