1. #1801
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Is this the part where you bring up Stalin or Mao as if pointing to systems in which there was a complete lack of democratic input into how the economy or society was run as a counter-example to people calling for increased democratization of the economy?

    Lol. Why do you hate freedom so much, man.
    Well, the Leninists did love their democracy. You should just start murdering the rich, already.

    No time like the present.
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    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
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    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Well, the Leninists did love their democracy. You should just start murdering the rich, already.
    You do realise the only reason people started murdering the rich was because wealth inequality was allowed to get to such a grotesque point that most people were suffering in practice, right?
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  3. #1803
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    You do realise the only reason people started murdering the rich was because wealth inequality was allowed to get to such a grotesque point that most people were suffering in practice, right?
    Just because the GOP bans abortion, doesn't mean young mothers-to-be can't bootstrap that shit, and figure something else out.

    Good luck with your Kristallnacht, or do you have a new name?
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Just because the GOP bans abortion, doesn't mean young mothers-to-be can't bootstrap that shit, and figure something else out.

    Good luck with your Kristallnacht, or do you have a new name?
    Good to know bringing up a basic historical fact is enough to cause you to devolve into full on Trumpian nonsense.

    We've got an abortion non sequitur, Godwinning, and a claim that taxing the rich is on par with ethnic cleansing all in one post.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  5. #1805
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Good to know bringing up a basic historical fact is enough to cause you to devolve into full on Trumpian nonsense.
    Trump is the fascist authoritarian... so that would be you.

    He's a national socialist, you two should hang out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  6. #1806
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Trump is the fascist authoritarian... so that would be you.
    Nope, we established that the trump fascist authoritarian is you. The evidence has been provided.

    Enjoy!

  7. #1807
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Nope, we established that the trump fascist authoritarian is you. The evidence has been provided.

    Enjoy!
    Could you provide it again, I must have missed it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    He's a national socialist, you two should hang out.
    You...do realise that fascism is an explicitly elitist ideology and thus completely contradictory to calls for more egalitarian ownership of the economy, yes? That the national socialists were too busy hanging out with CEOs? Lol.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  9. #1809
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Could you provide it again, I must have missed it.
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    She has the choice not to be taxed out of her company by adapting. she has the personal freedom to sink or swim. Why are you so against people's freedom?
    Enjoy the evidence fascist authoritarian.

  10. #1810
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    You...do realise that fascism is an explicitly elitist ideology and thus completely contradictory to calls for more egalitarian ownership of the economy, yes?
    Nah, you're sharpening your knives right now.

    - - - Updated - - -

    So, we have covered that almost everyone in this thread accepts that plans like these will cause people to sell their own companies.

    We've established this with evidence and statistics.

    We've established that they know these are the results, and still support it.

    That means we know that this is their goal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  11. #1811
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    We are whatever you decide to paint is so your empty arguments have merit. They don’t. Just empty words for an empty suit.
    *shrugs*
    He always paints people with extremes. Taking a moderate position such as progressive taxation (as it once was...but that's a history lesson he never wants anyone to know about) means compromise. And that means he couldn't afford a third house.

    Has he cried that he's the only person arguing for freedom...liberty or some other shit yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    *shrugs*
    He always paints people with extremes. Taking a moderate position such as progressive taxation (as it once was...but that's a history lesson he never wants anyone to know about) means compromise. And that means he couldn't afford a third house.

    Has he cried that he's the only person arguing for freedom...liberty or some other shit yet?
    Nah, he's gone full Machismo Taylor Greene and is now trying to equate taxing the rich with episodes of the Holocaust.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  13. #1813
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    *shrugs*
    He always paints people with extremes. Taking a moderate position such as progressive taxation (as it once was...but that's a history lesson he never wants anyone to know about) means compromise. And that means he couldn't afford a third house.

    Has he cried that he's the only person arguing for freedom...liberty or some other shit yet?
    I literally proved that it would force them to sell their own companies, and you agreed.

    Why do you want to force people to sell their own companies?
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  14. #1814
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Nope, we established that the trump fascist authoritarian is you. The evidence has been provided. Enjoy!
    He whined that Trump's tax cut weren't enough for him....

  15. #1815
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    He whined that Trump's tax cut weren't enough for him....
    You whined that Biden beat Trump. You wanted Trump to win.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  16. #1816
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Nah, he's gone full Machismo Taylor Greene and is now trying to equate taxing the rich with episodes of the Holocaust.
    Well that sounds more...honest?
    More in line with crazy and deranged but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Well that sounds more...honest?
    More in line with crazy and deranged but...
    Pretty much. To boil it down:

    Q: What happens if someone super wealthy needs liquid assets to pay for taxes, won't that force them to break up their companies or punish their success by having to sell shares off?
    A: They can always keep the shares in-house by disbursing them to their employees in the unlikely event they have no other way of generating liquid funds for this specific model of a wealth tax.
    Q: That is literally equivalent to ethnic cleansing.

    :shrug:
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  18. #1818
    "Machismo Taylor Greene" that's...yeah that's going to linger.

  19. #1819
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Trump is the fascist authoritarian... so that would be you.

    He's a national socialist, you two should hang out.
    Holy shit, you really don’t know shit about Nazis either? I may have to expand my ignore list beyond zero…

  20. #1820
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Holy shit, you really don’t know shit about Nazis either? I may have to expand my ignore list beyond zero…
    Holy shit, my evidence has been provided.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

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