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  1. #1841
    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    They are when the interest rate is below inflation.



    Yes, which can be done with another sub-inflation loan and keep that going indefinitely, while your stock keeps growing and is never actually sold and thus never legally realized.
    You still have to pay back the loan, dude. You have to get the money... from somewhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  2. #1842
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I've provided the data, can you refute any of it, or are you just going to shitpost?
    Hey I'm not the one having a online mental breakdown about it, #top1%wannabe

  3. #1843
    Quote Originally Posted by Iliena View Post
    Hey I'm not the one having a online mental breakdown about it, #top1%wannabe
    I'll take that as a no.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  4. #1844
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It's not earnings.

    For fuck sake.
    Or you stupid or what? I was discussing on how you can take earnings to pay off debt, and pay no taxes in the process. You do understand that people get earnings on their shares independently from selling them, right?

    No, it's because you fucking can't, which is the whole point.

    Fucking prove it, the numbers were handed to you. If you think it's overvalued, then fucking prove it.
    I don't need to you dipshit. DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE ENTIRE FUCKING STOCK MARKET IS WILDLY OVERVALUED.

    Depending on who does the analysis they ballpark the overvaluation rate anywhere between 120 to 190%.

    Regarding In and Out...I can't even find a fucking up to date market valuation or revenue report. So I don't know where the fuck you pulled your horseshit napkin math from.

    I can't deal with this much retardation. I'm gonna get banned.

  5. #1845
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Or you stupid or what? I was discussing on how you can take earnings to pay off debt, and pay no taxes in the process.



    I don't need to you dipshit. DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE ENTIRE FUCKING STOCK MARKET IS WILDLY OVERVALUED.

    Depending on who does the analysis they ballpark the overvaluation rate anywhere between 120 to 190%.

    Regarding In and Out...I can't even find a fucking up to date market valuation or revenue report. So I don't know where the fuck you pulled your horseshit napkin math from.

    I can't deal with this much retardation. I'm gonna get banned.
    Yes, you can take out loans, pay them back and not pay taxes.

    I pointed to a specific company, gave specific numbers. If you want to push the narrative that it's overvalued, then fucking prove it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  6. #1846
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Yes, you can take out loans, pay them back and not pay taxes.
    Yes, and that's the problem, that they took that simple economic transaction and turned into a TAX DODGE.

    I pointed to a specific company, gave specific numbers. If you want to push the narrative that it's overvalued, then fucking prove it.
    Relink that shit. I'm not going through 9000 pages of your hogwash to find it.

  7. #1847
    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    They are when the interest rate is below inflation.



    Yes, which can be done with another sub-inflation loan and keep that going indefinitely, while your stock keeps growing and is never actually sold and thus never legally realized.
    Yeah that’s what you’re betting on with stocks. Fortunately everyone else can do this too. If I used that asinine ‘true tax rate’ calculation that propublica said they spent months working on, I paid an effective 2.6% tax rate last year. I am not a millionaire. That piece is specifically designed to get the useful idiots on board. Just because you choose not to play the game doesn’t mean it isn’t fair. You’re much more likely to get me on board with a UBI than the idea that by merely owning stocks and taking loans that billionaires are tax dodgers. They clearly pay tax. A whole heck of a lot more than me. As it should be.

    Oh and by the way, you can blame the Fed for those super low interest rate loans. Ask Machismo what he thinks of the Fed.

  8. #1848
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Relink that shit. I'm not going through 9000 pages of your hogwash to find it.
    Nah, fuck that.

    I have gone out of my way to provide evidence.

    I'll stick with my evidence, you stick with your lack of evidence.

    "But, it's like earnings!!!"

    Newp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  9. #1849
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Nah, fuck that.

    I have gone out of my way to provide evidence.

    I'll stick with my evidence, you stick with your lack of evidence.

    "But, it's like earnings!!!"

    Newp.
    What evidence? Come on. Give me that "evidence". Come on. Do it. Do it.

    Or stfu and gtfo.

    You are mentally ill dude.

  10. #1850
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    What evidence? Come on. Give me that "evidence". Come on. Do it. Do it.

    Or stfu and gtfo.

    You are mentally ill dude.
    Asked, answered, and fucking provided.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  11. #1851
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The amount she gets will be tough to calculate, because... people will do whatever they can to hide money. They will deliberately cause their own stocks to crash, to avoid that payment. They will move assets overseas, and will even fucking leave the country. If people thought a high income tax was stifling, a wealth tax like this, would strangle thousands of companies.

    People still don't get it, this means liquidating assets, and selling companies.
    Preach brother. I don’t think most people realize how much our economy walks the razors edge while spinning plates and jumping thru flaming hoops over a pit of sharks.

    You want to see the next Great Depression? Enact galaxy brain Elizabeth Warren’s tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Yes, and that's the problem, that they took that simple economic transaction and turned into a TAX DODGE.



    Relink that shit. I'm not going through 9000 pages of your hogwash to find it.
    Are you a homeowner? I’m betting you’re not a homeowner. Did you know you get to deduct your mortgage payments from your income tax bill? A mortgage is a loan you see. And you get to deduct it just like the billionaires. You’re calling homeowners tax dodgers in effect.

  12. #1852
    ROFL Yeah you know your arguments are shit when the only ones agreeing were so dumb they voted Trump.

  13. #1853
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    ROFL Yeah you know your arguments are shit when the only ones agreeing were so dumb they voted Trump.
    And one of those rallied along side Sulla in support of Roy Moore.
    “You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X

  14. #1854
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    ROFL Yeah you know your arguments are shit when the only ones agreeing were so dumb they voted Trump.
    Shadowferal is a Trump supporter...
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  15. #1855
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    ROFL Yeah you know your arguments are shit when the only ones agreeing were so dumb they voted Trump.
    Machismo most definitely did not vote Trump

  16. #1856
    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    Machismo most definitely did not vote Trump
    You and PC2 did though, Machismo, idk he's anti-freedom like you Trumpers.

  17. #1857
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I'll take that as a no.
    But yet you have to proved evidence to your ability to use a keyboard in a rational manner, seeing you cant understand the basic concept that paying taxes is the basic cost of doing business in the country you live in, people who don't pay there fair share by bypassing the taxation system are leaches who push up the percentage everybody else has to pay up including yourself,

  18. #1858
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    You and PC2 did though, Machismo, idk he's anti-freedom like you Trumpers.
    I think you don’t understand the meaning of anti- when used as a prefix…

  19. #1859
    Quote Originally Posted by Iliena View Post
    But yet you have to proved evidence to your ability to use a keyboard in a rational manner, seeing you cant understand the basic concept that paying taxes is the basic cost of doing business in the country you live in, people who don't pay a there fair share by bypassing the taxation system are leaches who push up the percentage everybody else has to pay up including yourself,
    The dudes you're defending don't know what capital gains, income, and salaries are.

    I literally had to provide the definitions for them.

    They pay a higher percentage of their income than the average American.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  20. #1860
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Shadowferal is a Trump supporter...
    I don't see him being the only one in agreement against you. You got anyone who's agreeing with you who ain't a trumpster? yeah... this is what you got to show with how you've essentially the entirety of the last 3 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    I think you don’t understand the meaning of anti- when used as a prefix…
    Don't care what a Trumpster thinks. /shrug

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