1. #1721
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    As opposed to cheering forced capitalism?

    Didn't see an answer there so I'll assume your claim of "destroying" the company was, as you call everyone else's claims a "lie".
    You want to force people to sell their own companies, because they're successful.

    That's fucking evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    That's not what I said. The evidence is there. You are against freedom. Enjoy!
    Show me your math.

  2. #1722
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    As opposed to cheering forced capitalism?

    Didn't see an answer there so I'll assume your claim of "destroying" the company was, as you call everyone else's claims a "lie".
    It's is full on anti-freedom authoritarianism on full display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Nope, you want to tax people out of their own property.
    So yeah, you're admitting your issue is really just a childishly simplistic opposition to the taking of stuff from people rather than any substantive argument about it resulting in "the breaking up companies" or destroying the economy or flatlining people's 401ks or any of that fearmongering nonsense you've been parroting from Mark Cuban for 600 posts.

    Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    So yeah, you're admitting your issue is really just an opposition to the taking of stuff from people rather than any substantive argument about it breaking up companies or destroying the economy or flatlining people's 401ks or any of that fearmongering nonsense you've been parroting from Mark Cuban for 600 posts.

    Lol.
    yes, my is with you trying to seize the wealth of people you hate.

    We saw others do that shit, even fought a war over it.


    I have provided dozens of sources, you don't even know what capital gains are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    yes, my is with you trying to seize the wealth of people you hate.
    No. I'm trying to give the people who had a hand in building that wealth the portion to which they are entitled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    No. I'm trying to give the people who had a hand in building their wealth the portion of wealth to which they are entitled.
    So, forced socialism... Man, he would be proud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, forced socialism... Man, he would be proud.
    Is this the part where you bring up Stalin or Mao as if pointing to systems in which there was a complete lack of democratic input into how the economy or society was run as a counter-example to people calling for increased democratization of the economy?

    Lol. Why do you hate freedom so much, man.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  8. #1728
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Is this the part where you bring up Stalin or Mao as if pointing to systems in which there was a complete lack of democratic input into how the economy or society was run as a counter-example to people calling for increased democratization of the economy?

    Lol. Why do you hate freedom so much, man.
    Well, the Leninists did love their democracy. You should just start murdering the rich, already.

    No time like the present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Well, the Leninists did love their democracy. You should just start murdering the rich, already.
    You do realise the only reason people started murdering the rich was because wealth inequality was allowed to get to such a grotesque point that most people were suffering in practice, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  10. #1730
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    You do realise the only reason people started murdering the rich was because wealth inequality was allowed to get to such a grotesque point that most people were suffering in practice, right?
    Just because the GOP bans abortion, doesn't mean young mothers-to-be can't bootstrap that shit, and figure something else out.

    Good luck with your Kristallnacht, or do you have a new name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Just because the GOP bans abortion, doesn't mean young mothers-to-be can't bootstrap that shit, and figure something else out.

    Good luck with your Kristallnacht, or do you have a new name?
    Good to know bringing up a basic historical fact is enough to cause you to devolve into full on Trumpian nonsense.

    We've got an abortion non sequitur, Godwinning, and a claim that taxing the rich is on par with ethnic cleansing all in one post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  12. #1732
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Good to know bringing up a basic historical fact is enough to cause you to devolve into full on Trumpian nonsense.
    Trump is the fascist authoritarian... so that would be you.

    He's a national socialist, you two should hang out.

  13. #1733
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Trump is the fascist authoritarian... so that would be you.
    Nope, we established that the trump fascist authoritarian is you. The evidence has been provided.

    Enjoy!

  14. #1734
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Nope, we established that the trump fascist authoritarian is you. The evidence has been provided.

    Enjoy!
    Could you provide it again, I must have missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    He's a national socialist, you two should hang out.
    You...do realise that fascism is an explicitly elitist ideology and thus completely contradictory to calls for more egalitarian ownership of the economy, yes? That the national socialists were too busy hanging out with CEOs? Lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  16. #1736
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Could you provide it again, I must have missed it.
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    She has the choice not to be taxed out of her company by adapting. she has the personal freedom to sink or swim. Why are you so against people's freedom?
    Enjoy the evidence fascist authoritarian.

  17. #1737
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    You...do realise that fascism is an explicitly elitist ideology and thus completely contradictory to calls for more egalitarian ownership of the economy, yes?
    Nah, you're sharpening your knives right now.

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    So, we have covered that almost everyone in this thread accepts that plans like these will cause people to sell their own companies.

    We've established this with evidence and statistics.

    We've established that they know these are the results, and still support it.

    That means we know that this is their goal.

  18. #1738
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    We are whatever you decide to paint is so your empty arguments have merit. They don’t. Just empty words for an empty suit.
    *shrugs*
    He always paints people with extremes. Taking a moderate position such as progressive taxation (as it once was...but that's a history lesson he never wants anyone to know about) means compromise. And that means he couldn't afford a third house.

    Has he cried that he's the only person arguing for freedom...liberty or some other shit yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    *shrugs*
    He always paints people with extremes. Taking a moderate position such as progressive taxation (as it once was...but that's a history lesson he never wants anyone to know about) means compromise. And that means he couldn't afford a third house.

    Has he cried that he's the only person arguing for freedom...liberty or some other shit yet?
    Nah, he's gone full Machismo Taylor Greene and is now trying to equate taxing the rich with episodes of the Holocaust.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    *shrugs*
    He always paints people with extremes. Taking a moderate position such as progressive taxation (as it once was...but that's a history lesson he never wants anyone to know about) means compromise. And that means he couldn't afford a third house.

    Has he cried that he's the only person arguing for freedom...liberty or some other shit yet?
    I literally proved that it would force them to sell their own companies, and you agreed.

    Why do you want to force people to sell their own companies?

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