We've got more risk of Turaylon going Light-a wall and doing what Yrel has done to AU Draenor than we have Tyrande dying...especially now that she is able to "control Elune's power."
Go for it.
It's about time the Paladin class was available to Night Elves. They'd probably get the best looking Saber-Paladin mounts in the game.
Darnassus on top of tree was an ingenious idea, but if I’m honest those wood building there look bad compared to the Greco-Roman style marble ones.
They should pick one or the other, both looks a bit confused and not las nice when you compare to the unified theme of Suramar or Zin’Azshari
And I think Ravenmoon is right on this one, wood buoldings work against the Druid ethos for a city - they wouldn’t manipulate trees to that extent cos they like raw nature closest to the emerald dream.
Therefore, the night elf nature love in a city makes sense to show up as gardens with flowers, also parks - I don’t see what’s wrong with that. There is plenty of forest outside like in Teldrassil.
When I saw Suramar, the commons area looked very night elf, homes had lots of flora mixed in. They didn’t have parks and rooftop gardens like Zin’Azshari video, but it was more than any other city in the game. Nee night elf city must add those rooftop gardens
The elite section he is also right is distinguished as Highborne because of the more jewelled and ornamented stuff on the buildings making them look richer, like for lords and rulers and there are still trees and flowers but a lot less than the commons area. It’s not the style that changes but details like this.
I’m not sure what is so bad about it any longer. I don’t really have a problem. They can make their capital as lovely as they want, as long as they upgrade Silvermoon spectacularly.
I would rather they just cut together bits from Suramar and Nar’thalas and give it a Zin’Azshari theme with parks than they waste time designing a new concept.
New concept means less time to do our city.
Why go for a 4th iteration of night elf stuff? We’ve not been iterated on since our stuff came in 2.0
They’ve shown us enough. I understand night elf fans have waited a long long time to see this, but they got their stuff in 7.0 and 8.2
Our turn now. I want our floating towers and Phoenix spires. A like the vista he we saw in Sylvanas’ Warbringer video
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I use to really like this one it’s amazing but has too much Kaldorei influence it looks more ight elven than what they have shown us for blood elves
maybe this is how the first version looked?
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I feel like it'd be cool to see Night Elves move into a place the Worgen have, as a way for the Worgen to repay the Night Elves for them housing them for so long. It'd be cool to see the Blackwald, that twisted witchwood, purposed as a capital theme for Worgen and Night Elves collectively. It might also be appropriate, considering Elune's ties to the Worgen, especially at a time now that the Night Elves have this tie to the aspect of the Night Warriors, could be weaved in as a kind of pilgrimage for them to retake Gilneas in total as a mutual effort. Also, Gilneas is in a nice sort of centralized location in the Eastern Kingdoms, which would make it a great staging ground for an expansion in terms of launching off in any direction for content throughout an expansion. I feel like it also plays into the theme of making Night Elves more feral, to be housed in a more primal and feral looking forest with very dangerous visual elements. Also, it helps play into the growing rivalry between the Forsaken and the Worgen and Night Elves from the war.
I've heard that a few times, never quite understood it. I far prefer night elf architecture to Gilneas one, and I'd think it a massive waste after 5 night elf cities and 16 zones, that they have to end up sharing with the worgen.
Besides I'd like the Gilneans to be their own separate thing,, obviously having a friendship with the night elves because of their help, but not move in with them permanently. and for blizzard to do a night elf worgen like Mace suggested a while ago, and that would be a full forest elf race, sort of like Nightborne are a full city night elf race, while the kaldorei themselves have all the aspects all the elves have, because ofc, they're the parent race all the other elves come from.
The worgen night elf race would have a forested city, they're not the nature purists like the kaldorei druids, so they have made wooden homes, their ability to shift into semi animal worgen state and their length in the emerald dream makes them quite adapt. I'd love to see a raeclike that.
Mace suggested that they be half night elves in night elf form, and can either have normal night elf legs, or animal alterations, including faun legs, or arms with winged feathers, or bird legs instead, panther legs etc,or wooden arms like keepers, antlers and options for leaves for hair instead. this is all part of their customisation.
Worgen form won't be the only one, you can choose either a worgen form, or a bird man type form a bit like the high arrkoa in appearance. Also you can choose a cat like panther man form, similar to the saberon and finally a bear man form similar to the guardian druid mage tower artifact appearance.
I love this concept, which form you choose wild determine which customisations you can have on your night elf form.
night elves overall are an Elune centred, arcane and nature balanced race - they represent harmony and oneness that other elven groups have strayed form majoring in other things. it is fitting that night elves not be a forest race purely because that would limit them hugely by locking them in, instead, we should have an elven forest race - and I think the worgen are exactly that.
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That's because your stuff when it was done was bloody good, it was head and shoulders above everything else, including Darnassus - it was so good, it's hardly needed changing, and unlike the draenei, who only had ruined cities, the pristine version could have major updates.
same with the night elves the night elf cities were all ruined, we didn't see a pristine one till Suramar, then Zin'Azshari, and had to wait till woD to see a Draenei one, meanwhile you got 2 pristine ones off the bat, Silvermoon and Quel'danas.
you've not been treated unfairly. (relatively)
Granted, Quel'Thalas and Blood Elf players do warrant an updated Silvermoon. Hell, in game, we only have half the city. What about the ruined half which should no longer be the "ruins of silvermoon."
And Quel'Danas is a questing location. We do not get to go to the museum that is Magister's Terrace, we don't get to walk around the Sunwell Plateau and watch the Guardian Magi maintain the Sunwell.
But all of this said - this is about the night elves and their new city.
Blood Elf players don't have Quel'Danas. It was a location that came in 2.4 and in-game, it's shared between Blood Elves and Draenei. The lore might have it as a Blood Elf only zone, but that is not shown in game.
And Blood Elf players only have half of Silvermoon. This is why Blood Elves need an updated Quel'Thalas, because they are stuck in the past, with a ruined half of their city, plus a large scar of death running through their lands.
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With Quel'thalas update (which is definitely needed), I could see Quel'danas being assimilated into sin'dorei holdings with Zidormi option to go back into past for entry to Sunwell raid, MT dungeon and Shattered Sun dailies rep farm. I think it would be fair to allow blood elves finaly approach Sunwell in game without getting back in time to TBC.
I'm fully expecting Darnassus to be reclaimed and rebuilt at some point. The same with Undercity. At least that's what I'm hoping for as my 2 most played characters are Night Elf and Undead and they've both gotten the shaft in the last 2 expansions.
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Ouch.. feel your pain
@Tanaria and @Beloren - look, if blizzard destroyed the night elf home, they should rebuild it. doesn't matter if they have done 4 cities. If they don't want to build a new one, then let them go to Suramar that's already in game.
They could have had Silvermoon taken instead of Undercity, then you'd definitely get a rebuild.
I think it would, but there's got to be a reason to go to Quel'Danas, as in - quests.
I do think it's got to be a questing location, but I don't know what it could be.
With the introduction of Zidormi, Blizzard can revamp Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms completely and those who want to quest through the Cataclysm world, can still do so.
Honestly, we've had this Cataclysm world longer than we had the old Azeroth world.
And Blizzard destroyed the Blood Elf home in W3 and we're still waiting for it's other half to be restored, along with the center.
Blizzard would possibly hinting at a Silvermoon/Quel'Thalas revamp with the hinted Quel'Thalas Warfront, which would have likely been Blood Elves vs Void Elves, along with Nightborne and Humans as close allies. Obviously this would have been a Horde Victory by lore, as the Alliance won 2 and the Horde would have won 2. Them being Quel'Thalas and the Southern Barrens.
If Silvermoon was destroyed, then the Exodar would have been it's destroyed counterpart, since Silvermoon and Exodar are the linked cities in their respective time periods. They wouldn't have done another full elf-based story. We'd just come out of Legion - the only Elves that were truly involved throughout the War Campaign were the Night Elves. Second only were the Void Elves.
Blood Elves and Nightborne didn't actively take a huge role until 8.2.
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