View Poll Results: 9.1 Arrives 20th July?

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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    It doesn't matter. Activision marketing is extremely petty. The literal name of the plane of death was changed so that when you search Shadow and MMO in Google Shadowlands would pop up and not Shadowbringers. https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/w...rld_of_Shadows <--- This expansion was supposed to be called World of Shadows because is the only mention of it in Burning Crusade prior to all this new lore and myth created out of thin air that completely goes against everything we learned in Wrath.
    You can believe a conspiracy theory if you want but that doesn't make it true. There is nothing to indicate that the name Shadowlands exists just to spite Final Fantasy. A quest from TBC doesn't indicate anything at all. If Activision Blizzard (it's not activision by the way) marketing is extremely petty then why would they go for a Beta date and not the actual games release date?

    Amazon hasn't had a good track record with game development. Their other title was released, taken back into beta, then cancelled. Other attempts haven't met release. It is no where near the need for pettiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotTrolling View Post
    Word is that 9.1 is getting the same treatment as Shadowlands itself ie delayed. From what I'm hearing we're looking at a likely September or early October release date.
    Lol. That is not even a little believable given the state of the PTR currently.
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  2. #102
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    I know Blizzard has a reputation for doing this, but I think it's reaching to claim they'd let the closed beta of a fairly disliked game dictate their patch release dates. A release date, sure. A major patch or expansion? Sure. A closed beta? Meh, seems unlikely due to its insignificance.

    (that assumes the beta even actually starts that day and doesn't get pushed again. New World has been postponed and revamped so many times at this point that it wouldn't shock me if they pushed the beta start date back again)

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  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdragon2 View Post
    so they will release a broken patch just to try and screw over a new game...how low blizz has sunk....
    Where have you been the past 15+ years lol

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalium View Post
    In the original Death Knight's starting area Shadowlands was referenced as to where you stole your horse from.

    EDIT: Wrath of the Lich King opening patch.
    Actually, they call it the "Realm of Shadows". We visit what later became the Veil many times in WotLK.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Actually, they call it the "Realm of Shadows". We visit what later became the Veil many times in WotLK.
    You are correct... I went back to verify... Mandela effect is strong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    No fucking way. The worst idea since democracy.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Kauko View Post
    Are you new to this game? They are doing this since Warhammer online, age of conan days...
    ive been playing since mid bc tyvm still doesn't mean im not sorely disappointed when they do this

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamthedevil View Post
    Where have you been the past 15+ years lol
    actually playing wow, what about you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    It isn't 2009. Blizzard is fully aware they have no real competition in the MMO space.
    If anything, competition these days is much better than back in 2009, when WoW was the unchallenged behemoth. FF14 and ESO are thriving, GW2 still holds a solid niche and more importantly, they've learned to not be merely WoW copycats. As for WoW itself... let's just say that it has seen better days.
    Current state of WoW lore:
    Quote Originally Posted by AwkwardSquirtle View Post
    Who'd have known that the Domination guy whose aesthetics are 80% chains wasn't into freedom. Nobody could have seen this coming.

  8. #108
    That is unquestionably false. None of the above ever threatened WoW. They don't even try any more. There are no "WoW killers" even on the horizon, in development.

    That doesn't mean FF14 and ESO aren't successful, they totally are. They just didn't take the king's crown, and they never will.

  9. #109
    i would play 9.1 over new world
    was hyped for new world but the shop news killed all of my hype

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    It isn't 2009. Blizzard is fully aware they have no real competition in the MMO space.
    This isn't exactly true anymore. FF14 recently passed WOW SL in monthly active subs and they will launching a new xpac in the fall. Not to mention AOC and New World will be kicking off betas in the near future and Gw2 and FF14 will be releasing new xpacs. The point is if WOW does fade away it's not going to be the workings of 1 stellar MMO. It's going to be a "death by 1k papercuts" sort of thing. I honestly don't believe the new wave of WOW killers will impact in a significantly negative way. However, when you wait a ridiculous and unacceptable 7+m to drop a 1st patch (that is underwhelming) and bifurcate your player base with BC classic you are putting yourself in a needlessly vulnerable position. Players are already giving other MMOs a shot right now, particularly FF14 and ESO, that's something as a gaming company you do not want players to do.

  11. #111
    Any supporting evidence of that? I can't find any numbers on FF14 active subscriptions and WoW hasn't released that info since like Cataclysm.

    I totally agree, WoW will slowly continue its decline over time, nobody will abruptly steal its crown one day like Fortnite did with PUBG or WoW with Everquest.

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by thunderdragon2 View Post
    so they will release a broken patch just to try and screw over a new game...how low blizz has sunk....
    They always did this

  13. #113
    They did schedule expansions/patches to blunt the competition, but that isn't what he was saying. They won't knowingly release a broken patch to do that.

  14. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    Any supporting evidence of that? I can't find any numbers on FF14 active subscriptions and WoW hasn't released that info since like Cataclysm.

    I totally agree, WoW will slowly continue its decline over time, nobody will abruptly steal its crown one day like Fortnite did with PUBG or WoW with Everquest.
    There aren’t any even slightly credible sources for Ffxiv sub numbers.

    They normally mention subs in there investor reports but never give raw numbers. There last report was in April meaning there won’t be any data for a while until the next one and even that data is rather useless for sub numbers as they just report earnings and also mix another mmo into the same numbers given.
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  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    Any supporting evidence of that? I can't find any numbers on FF14 active subscriptions and WoW hasn't released that info since like Cataclysm.

    I totally agree, WoW will slowly continue its decline over time, nobody will abruptly steal its crown one day like Fortnite did with PUBG or WoW with Everquest.
    You could get subnumbers from a broken API a year ago. Source: https://twitter.com/WeakAuras/status...12677578838016

    For final fantasy just google. You find on 10 different pages the same number 2.5 mil.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    You could get subnumbers from a broken API a year ago. Source: https://twitter.com/WeakAuras/status...12677578838016

    For final fantasy just google. You find on 10 different pages the same number 2.5 mil.
    From the Twitter link:
    the original post with those findings has since been deleted, not sure if because Blizzard threatened to sue or because it was false data. keep that in mind before spreading this as a fact. Just because something ended up being written on the internet, does not mean it's true.
    There is nothing to indicate that those were actual sub numbers and not a false or inaccurate claim. Also googling "Final fantasy 14 subscription number" only provides hits about having 22 million registered users.
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  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    From the Twitter link:


    There is nothing to indicate that those were actual sub numbers and not a false or inaccurate claim. Also googling "Final fantasy 14 subscription number" only provides hits about having 22 million registered users.
    Yes, Blizzard didn't confirm any number and they never will. Obviously.

  18. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    For final fantasy just google. You find on 10 different pages the same number 2.5 mil.
    Any site you see sighting 2.5 is using mmo population as a source and that site just makes up its numbers with no backing.
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  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Clozer View Post
    Yes, Blizzard didn't confirm any number and they never will. Obviously.
    Then why bring something up that is a baseless rumor? Not everything posted on the internet is true and there was never anything to confirm that the api information was accurate or real.
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  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Then why bring something up that is a baseless rumor? Not everything posted on the internet is true and there was never anything to confirm that the api information was accurate or real.
    You will never believe anything that's the point.

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