I think it’ll be a customization option especially since the night warrior is gone now and playable characters that have the eyes need something to switch too
Actually, technically suramar belongs to the people there. Nightborne and Night elves - those who built it, live in it, come from it. Most of these racial cities and places arne't horde or alliance. Only Orgrimmar and Stormwind, and any official Horde or Alliance place they build like Warsong Hold or Valiance Keep.
Racial cities like Suramar and Mechagon, or Dazar'alor etc belong to the people from there. Or the racial group associated with it. Silvermoon while a horde cit, does not belong ot the horde. Should the blood elves up and leave, the horde has no right and claim to it.
They do, they turned into Nightborne continuing to live night elven lives.... most of them, I mean there some like Aluriel and Elisande who are more night elf than nightborne, and I'm sure some original kaldorei like Farodin, and those that helped in Shal'aran probably live in the city.
Technically while void elves are no longer blood elves, I still think of them as such, same with Nightborne and night elves.
this is her new model
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wo...20210514002231
what she has in cinematic is most likely her new form she can can transform.
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kind of an insult to the Nier franchise if we use it for WoW
she's definitley gonna be waifu contender now.
You can't take what ya can't see... *rolls d20* You rolled a natural 20* The skill of stealth is successful.
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Yes, I've thought that as well, - I mean, as dark trolls, they probably loved the stars too, being nocturnal - or were a tribe of dark trolls marked by their love of the stars, and during their well gazing (maybe they loved the well so much because they could see doubt the heavens.. ) but Elune took interest in their curious benevolent nature,
Or, maybe once upon a time she manifested, and in the most beautiful form ever, that of pure starlight they loved so much. She shone like the moon, and maybe their brains formed some sort of mental image of a human merged with troll, and that image in their mind is what they longed for.
Her appearance is what drew them to study the well more, to find that beauty that ethereal glimpse of a being of pure starlight, hair shining like the moon, skin purple dark like the waters before her, her clothes of starlight.. entranced and drawn to good feel factor, they searched the well, observed it, looked at it, studied it endlessly in search of her, and this is how they awoken.
Could be at the same time she saw them, these were different from the other trolls, they weren't interest in political power, conquest or violence, they were peaceful, benevolent and very curious, they learnt quick and always applied that knowledge to help . Where the other troll tribes would kill and eat a wounded animal, they would instead nurture it, where another troll group would just take for granted the heavens or the drop of a leaf or the movement of hte wind, they would gaze and study for hours. A rock would fall they'd not just curry in fear, but try to find out how it happened and prevent it, they would do so for other living creatures too.
They were not just drawn to Elune, she was drawn to them, the well's arcane energies continued to bathe them and change them, and she guided their transformation fashioned by their will. Peering into their minds, she saw the image they desired most, and it was that of what they became later, the night elf.. but the truth is, that image was the image of her their minds had formulated when they would glimpse her - so in a sense the wills guided them to that form, under the goddess' direction via the well's energy.
And voila.. night elf
Not bad for on the spot huh?
I got tempted to free roll write:
Drawing from Username99277 and Ravenmoon's post:
So in a round about ways, the night elf came to be because of their love of the stars, the light of the stars and perfect round white of the moon. As they developed, they would ever look upwards, fascinated by the stars, they mapped and formed constellations and learnt to draw power from the heavens as well as the well, one of the primary motivations of learning magic was to reach the stars to draw closer to Elune and her children the night elves who are reflected in the stars, every night elf born has a unique star. They would build and arrange their homes in the pattern of the stars, while their cities rested on nexus leyline intersections massive spell configurations to draw in the magic from the stars, and from the world beneath., the stars would inform them of the futures and destinies of their offspring, names were determined by star date, events were linked to star dates - a practice that exists to this days, all night elves have full names, but druids and sentinels have traditions that give them initiation names based on some aspect of nature or their adventure/training they excel at e.g. Tyrande and Malfuiron are names that are part of their star names, Stormrage however is a designation.. some families who achieve particularly noteworthy acts are given names accordingly. Which is why you have Stormrage, or Stargaze, Whisperwind, Shadowsong in addition to a star name like Aluriel, Maiev, Elisande, Mordant. For outsider sake, they give the shortened name. a families achievement name with the first name of the star name.
once the augurs consult the stars for your newborn, your life is heralded on the path you will take.. in the pre-sundering civilization this was HEAVY, society had roles already predetermined from birth by this, your stars told your future, determined your mate, everything.. this carries on in all night elf societies, except newborn nightborne.. because of the shield, what the Star augurs did instead would map the current constellations via projection, so based on these memories and the archives of the night sky, they would know what star sign the child should be.. although blizzard can change that to say they adopted different methods.
the main point is as Ravenmoon said, this establishes a star fundamental embedding of the night elves that is in their Elune worship order, druidism and their arcane civilization.. so even when they segregated, all night elves follow this, connected by their love for the stars and these traditions that are amongst all of them, whether your Highborne or lowborne, or in the new society whether druid or priests or just civilian..whether you've been isolated in a city like Eldre'thalas or Suramar or a forest like Ashenvale to Hyjal or Val'sharah - they all have it.
Switching over to High Elves
In the transition to High elves, hating all things kaldorei - rejecting the Highborne civilization because it summoned the legion, and rejecting the long vigil mandate because it refused to see sense, and worse banished them for doing what was clearly the best thing for their people - talk about trying to help your people and they instead choose fear and superstition that had little evidence (Malfurion couldn't prove Darth'remar was wrong), exiling you .. cutting you off from the magical protections and connections (how did Cenarius even do it??)
Well where was Elune The nights were cold and merciless, the sun brought warmth that guided them heat that helped them in the cold north traverse, they ditched kaldorei customs, ditched Elune, did away with the rigours of rigid structure o kaldorei civilization, they would build a new one, better than the former, brighter, freer, magic would be freely practised and responsibly, there would be no discrimination on using the arcane. They would respect magic and not be haughty or reckless and they would ward against the twisting nether fighting their spells.
new customs, replacement traditions, new religion would emerge, a philosophy based on logic and pragmatism - the light was real, and there was magic there, they knew it, but they didn't believe in a goddess, and sure enough they learnt how to harness the light and all the positive emotions and virtue that enhanced it. They were good people, noble too, virtuous.
While most of the arcane knowledge was lost, they worked hard to build on what they had in their own heads from 3,000 years ago. they were gifted and bright, and the brightness of the sun became their symbol. Like a phoenix that rise born anew from the ashes, this being symbolised their rebirth.
they would be high elves. Structurally, they used the same terms for things that night elves have always used, and academic terminology and structure remained the same, this is why you arcanists and magisters in both night elf and high elf kingdoms - those things wouldn't change, but a lot of things changed. system of governance, there was no lowborn class, no priest caste, no multiple nobility castes, besides 3,000 years under the long vigil, that sort of segregation the Hyjal community abandoned, they didn't restore it, they got rid of.
All would be equal, all were high borne, they would be a race of higher elves. not bound by fear and superstition, but by hard facts, rigorous study, principles and proofs, bound by a strong moral and technical code, they would suffer no t the arrogance and reckless hubris that led to the corruption of the former queen.
in time, they would have societal hierarchies, as Darth'remar was crowned king, the were would be leaders of institutions as their numbers replenished and their society grew, some retained names from the kaldorei civilization, others were completely new. New to reflect the new location, new magics they learnt and incorporated.
And so they are their own unique and bright elven culture and society, and while they share the love for the arcane and similarities with the academic structures as well as recent freedom from the pain of addiction (compared to most kaldorei for whom that was 10,000 years ago), their culture is still very different from the kaldorei civilization culture of the Nightborne. No star focus or tradition, no night fascination and glorification of the moon, no Elune, no celestial influence. They have astromnacers, recently, but only purely from a magical harnessing point of view, no spirituality or tradition or superstition attached to it.
Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.
Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.
We cast the same looking stuff no matter the culture. Night elf priest’s spells and abilities should be moonlight inspired, with beams and glows and moon wells/statues. Not old god or whatever.
Race-specific, culture-appropriate spell and ability visuals, animations and sound effects.
Sun walkers and seers, Tauren ‘paladins’ and sun priests, should have sunlit and warm themes. Calling golden firebirds down from the sky that sail toward the target, animations that have the kneeling playfully, calling a sunbeam, manifesting a fire whip, fiery feathers and sunny animals, drum beats during some abilities for sound effects etc
Night elf Druid’s tranquillity calls the calm of night to the sound of woodland growls or cricket chirps, or to the dreamy plucks of harp strings. And their efflorescence places a lantern that calls a moonbeam or a gently hooting owl soaring around, or to the soothing sounds of a wind chime.
While a tauren’s tranquility may be to play a wood pipe or raise a magical leaf or feather into the air and call an inspiriting whirlwind of colorful leaves or flowers, refreshing the weary, and their efflorescence could be to kneel or beat a drum to grow a patch of meadow grass or wheat that grows and heals.
A highmountain Tauren’s tranquility could be be playing a pine flute carved from the branch of a pine tree, which calls the snowy winds down from the mountain, reinvigorating friends, and for efflorescence they toss a pine one or magical seed to the area and a small pine tree sprouts upward and grows while refreshing, cool scented winds, or eagles soar around.
All these cultures that blizzard has created yet does little with. They could even keep the default visuals for those who want to use them.
Our peoples would have their own version of these arts, based on each race and culture’s beliefs, traditions, ideals, landscapes, histories, affinities, etc, not just forms and totems.
Nightborne mages animation should move more elegantly like olden day French dance and etiquette, and be more night themed with stars swirling within their dusky spells, and be accompanied by hovering tomes that flit through their pages and quills that scribble in the air, while melee animations would have a flare skin to fencing maneuvers.
Blizzard could overhaul this over time like updated models and trickle them in which would be exciting or all at once as an expansion feature. It needs to be done, I’m a long time player but this is the only thing that a Blizzcon reveal would get me excited for.
Even night warrior customization is empty if the race’s/culture’s class copy pastes every other race’s/culture’s spells and abilities, forsaking and betraying the history and traditions and beliefs and adeptness and development of a race’s/culture’s honed version of their art, as well as us players, and missing a necessary opportunity.
This would be truly exciting and breath life we haven’t seen in the game for a long time, and into upcoming blizzcons and expansions.
Last edited by dunkl; 2021-06-19 at 08:44 PM.