Folks, perhaps grab a coffee. Consider this, we've reached a point where it is predictable that discussing a topic such as Juneteenth (first new Federal holiday in quite a while and thus relevant to a chunk of posters) will get discussion infracted and probably get the thread closed. Thats a "forums" issue to think about.
Civility overall is another "forums" issue. Calling someone a troll used to be an issue, times have moved on, the word seems to be mainly a relic and has been replaced by other phrases.
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Super Kami Dende I have family branches in Texas, with a long (100 year plus) connection to Juneteenth. So, yeah, I kinda have an opinion on moving it to being a photo op holiday where by next year we're going to see random politicians using it for photo ops without any connection to it.
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justandulas For the love of small kittens, learn your history.
Juneteenth is about a final chapter in the forcible end of slavery among holdouts even after emancipation. It is not a land of immigrants tale.
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Calfredd As noted, a wider consideration is that the whole topic cannot really be discussed. I'd say it is a growing trend. I think Gen-OT these days may be allowed to discuss hamburgers, or what would one do with N dollars and some provision (push button, dance dressed as a penguin on Tik Tok, or whatever), but ... where was the Happy Juneteenth last year or the year before? Nope, none that I recall. Now, it is Federal holiday, and forum rules are not keeping up to allow discussion. The topic wasn't moved to politics, just closed out of hand. If I pm a mod, nobody else gets any input on that broader topic, but I'm hearing people leaving over the situation in Gen-OT, so maybe it is time to have a more open discussion. Not one about moderation, but perhaps what can be done to let conversations keep up with current concerns and interests.