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  1. #101
    One of the signs that Thano’s was truly a great villain, is that it’s totally believable that he would give up his mission to snap away half the universe because Starpanther showed him a better way.

  2. #102
    No Rocket or Groot... /sadface

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by cocomen2 View Post
    I can get it can work with basic killers or rapists, but with guy who willingly going to kill 50% population of galaxy? camon bruh , what next Joker was good guy all along and main character of jojo is dio.
    Nah man, Thanos wasn't killing half of the universe but saving the other half. He let his own personal experiences with his doomed homeworld taint his mind, but legit thought everyone was fucked unless he took action. Misguided as hell yeah, but there was a heroic intention behind those misguided actions whereas Joker never had that. When someone showed Thanos the problem wasn't lack of resources but the ALLOCATION of available resources, he took a different approach. Though I will say, Thanos isn't some altruistic hero because it never occurred to him he could simply use the gauntlet to make renewable resources rather than kill everyone - that's why he's still a villain.

  4. #104
    Having a discussion with a friend on this episode

    I thought the over the top fawning over how smooth and amazing T'Challa is was the joke. When it turned out he was even BFFS with Thanos after pointing out flaws in his plan I laughed out loud. Yeah, T'Challa is awesome, but it was meant to be ridiculous right?

    My friend however doesn't think it was meant to be the self-aware comedy I took it for, and believes it was meant to be earnest in it's portrayal of his all-greatness.

    Hell, I've even seen articles describing the episode as "a repudiation of mediocre white men" so maybe I am wrong on this one.
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  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Having a discussion with a friend on this episode

    I thought the over the top fawning over how smooth and amazing T'Challa is was the joke. When it turned out he was even BFFS with Thanos after pointing out flaws in his plan I laughed out loud. Yeah, T'Challa is awesome, but it was meant to be ridiculous right?

    My friend however doesn't think it was meant to be the self-aware comedy I took it for, and believes it was meant to be earnest in it's portrayal of his all-greatness.

    Hell, I've even seen articles describing the episode as "a repudiation of mediocre white men" so maybe I am wrong on this one.
    I think it was half half. It was a tribute to T'challa and his power as a diplomat and problemsolver, which is also part of his up-bringing as a prince of Wakanda (which stands in stark difference to Peter Quills more shitty situation when he was abducted) and I think Korath's reaction was at least partly a humorous nod to Djimon Honsou's own role as T'challa in the animated series.
    I mean, T'challa already had a life with a kind and loving family that supported him and did everything to bring out the best in him, when he was abducted, Peter Quill only got that when he went searching for it after he fell in love with Gamorra, which then was what turned him around to being a 'good guy'.

    What it is supposed to show in any case is that you can turn around a lot of stuff for the better if you actually try and have the power to back it up. Because I don't think turning Thanos to his side was the first thing T'challa did, he already had a network of Ravagers behind him, so he was able to actually lay out an at least somewhat realistic plan for Thanos not just the good old 'uh, no, there's got to be another way... but I don't really know one'. And yea, T'challa was the best for that kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Having a discussion with a friend on this episode

    I thought the over the top fawning over how smooth and amazing T'Challa is was the joke. When it turned out he was even BFFS with Thanos after pointing out flaws in his plan I laughed out loud. Yeah, T'Challa is awesome, but it was meant to be ridiculous right?

    My friend however doesn't think it was meant to be the self-aware comedy I took it for, and believes it was meant to be earnest in it's portrayal of his all-greatness.

    Hell, I've even seen articles describing the episode as "a repudiation of mediocre white men" so maybe I am wrong on this one.
    Honestly, in the MCU main timeline, T'Challa gave up on wanting to murder Bucky when he released the truth of the events AND spared Zemo. The idea that T'Challa as Starlord would have found another way to deal with villains is 100% in my view in character as established.

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    Onto this week episode.

    It was interesting. It could have benefited from being longer, imo. It falls between Captain Carter and T'Challa as Starlord territory. It is a lot of scenes that are pulled from the movies and redone. It was weird see Mark Ruffalo voice Bruce Banner for some scenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Honestly, in the MCU main timeline, T'Challa gave up on wanting to murder Bucky when he released the truth of the events AND spared Zemo. The idea that T'Challa as Starlord would have found another way to deal with villains is 100% in my view in character as established.

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    Onto this week episode.

    It was interesting. It could have benefited from being longer, imo. It falls between Captain Carter and T'Challa as Starlord territory. It is a lot of scenes that are pulled from the movies and redone. It was weird see Mark Ruffalo voice Bruce Banner for some scenes.
    What was weird about Mark Ruffalo playing a role he’s been in for close to a decade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Not really sure what "over do it" means in this case. Nothing that happens in this show will have a direct effect on anything in the MCU. They can go balls to the wall with ridiculousness if they want to and it won't matter.
    Thats what made the What If.. comics fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Not really sure what "over do it" means in this case. Nothing that happens in this show will have a direct effect on anything in the MCU. They can go balls to the wall with ridiculousness if they want to and it won't matter.
    Never say never when a multiverse is involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    What was weird about Mark Ruffalo playing a role he’s been in for close to a decade?
    Because those scenes originally didn't have him in the role? Ed Norton was Bruce Banner in that movie.
    So it is weird because it is a familiar actor in scenes that originally didn't have him as the character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenik View Post
    Thats what made the What If.. comics fun
    What if stories are always fun and Marvel isn't the only series that has done what if style stories.

    Star Wars had their Infinities comics which were essentially What if. A few others have done what if kind of things.

    These stories are allowed to exist without negatively impacting the main story and allow for fun new takes on stories we know.
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  11. #111
    I guess that's one way to kill Hulk. Jesus Christ.
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  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayirasi View Post
    I guess that's one way to kill Hulk. Jesus Christ.
    I bet they were inspired by the meme about Antman killing Thanos

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Because those scenes originally didn't have him in the role? Ed Norton was Bruce Banner in that movie.
    So it is weird because it is a familiar actor in scenes that originally didn't have him as the character.
    And General Ross, Tony Stark, Black Widow, etc were also all played by other voice actors...at least Ruffalo actually plays Banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Never say never when a multiverse is involved.
    They might cross the characters over..but the events of their actual "What if...?" story are probably not going to be relevant otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    So it is weird because it is a familiar actor in scenes that originally didn't have him as the character.
    So every James Bond feels weird to you too ? Strange take, but you do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    And General Ross, Tony Stark, Black Widow, etc were also all played by other voice actors...at least Ruffalo actually plays Banner.
    Yes ... that's why it was weird because he is the Hulk just wasn't in that movie.

    It is WEIRD because it is Mark Ruffalo, it wouldn't have been weird to me if it was any other actor.

    Why did you ignore the second line in what you quoted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    So every James Bond feels weird to you too ? Strange take, but you do you.
    Nope. That isn't what I am saying.

    But you use your example. It would be weird for me to see Daniel Craig go and voice James Bond in Goldeneye.
    It is weird because I associate the actor with the character, just not in that particular setting.
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  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by formerShandalay View Post
    I bet they were inspired by the meme about Antman killing Thanos
    That would be hilarious if that was the inspiration. What surprised me most was showing Hulk explode. Yeah, it wasn't graphic, but I thought they'd merely imply what happened, with some splatters on soldiers and vehicles. It left me nodding "Nice."
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  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Yes ... that's why it was weird because he is the Hulk just wasn't in that movie.

    It is WEIRD because it is Mark Ruffalo, it wouldn't have been weird to me if it was any other actor.

    Why did you ignore the second line in what you quoted?

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    Nope. That isn't what I am saying.

    But you use your example. It would be weird for me to see Daniel Craig go and voice James Bond in Goldeneye.
    It is weird because I associate the actor with the character, just not in that particular setting.
    I think I get it. If I saw an animated Goldeneye, complete with characters that are drawn to match their live action versions, and didn't hear Brosnans (sp?) voice coming out of bond, it would feel a little jarring at least at first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by formerShandalay View Post
    I bet they were inspired by the meme about Antman killing Thanos
    that was my immediate first thought as well.

  19. #119
    I see Loki was voiced by the original actor, but for some reason he didn't sound at all like he used to.

    Also this episode shows Ant-man could have been the most deadly Avenger, and probably could have taken Thanos out in the same way by himself.

  20. #120
    I liked the new episode. I particularly liked the unhappy-ish ending.

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