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    Another Cosmology map from the Grimoire of the Shadowlands.

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    So it's just rotated 60 degrees

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    I was expecting something a little more... different? With more detail instead of less? Seems its only purpose is to hype up the importance of Life and Death.

    I'm sure it'll change next expansion anyways.

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    I mean- ours is a bit more detailed with some clarifications and understandings of the greatest practitioners of the forces.

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    So what the Titans weight all the powers equally but the brokers weight life and death more then the rest?

    Seems like a pretty unneeded reason to make another chart.
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    The Brokers seem to know more than the Titans tbh. So this chart makes more sense imo, especially since they focus on the forces as a primal whole, rather than showcase the basic influences

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    I mean- ours is a bit more detailed with some clarifications and understandings of the greatest practitioners of the forces.
    Ours is only more “detailed” cause it’s what we know of the forces. The chart itself is pretty flawed.

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    "Refined Cosmology" - LOL

    Waiting for the "Even More Refined Cosmology" from next expansion.

    But at least these books look good on the shelf, so I will probably keep buying them haha

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    Wow this second picture looks like this Celestial Shadowlands Chart relic in Korthia. Those snake symbols of death and life cycle are in Oribos as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    "Refined Cosmology" - LOL

    Waiting for the "Even More Refined Cosmology" from next expansion.
    My thought too, its almost like they are meming on themselves for not being able to have any kind of congruent world building at this point.

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    The whole point is that it's the same but with the sides changed because it's in-story written by a Broker who figures Death is the biggest deal out there. The art is still good but it still gets my craw as much as it did in Chronicle I that the Burning Legion symbol/name is used for Fel. The Burning Legion is an organisation of demons, it's not all demons in general.
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    The Legion is the ruling power of Disorder. No idea why you have such an irk against it.

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    What is this mean?

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    I find it interesting that they placed death away from shadow and next to light. I would expect those two to be shifted. I do like disorder being connected to life and order to death, as I feel it somewhat fits the theme of the Shadowlands as being this very ordered realm.

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    What is this mean?
    Now we can bring order to everywhere we want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeraldofSargeras View Post
    Now we can bring order to everywhere we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olddog View Post


    What is this mean?
    What the hell? What is this mount from? Brokers or these Attendants? Lmao seeing this cosmology chart I sense power of many elements in. Hopefully Thrall won’t go Jesus again like he went in Cataclysm.

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    Damn, no wonder no one on any social media was talking about this book, there's literally nothing new here.

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    What you have to understand is it's just written from the titans broker's the first ones the primordial ones point of veiw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    "Refined Cosmology" - LOL

    Waiting for the "Even More Refined Cosmology" from next expansion.

    But at least these books look good on the shelf, so I will probably keep buying them haha
    That would be quite logical as we really don't know anything about greater cosmology of the wow universe. Each cosmology chart we have made until now has been from the perspective and knowledge of one of the cosmic forces we knew about. Now that we are getting acquainted with more of them, our idea about the cosmology is changing and becoming more refined. So next expansion, we will learn something new and will refine the cosmology chart more.
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    So...what's the great cycle?

    The name implies that there some cyclical event going on, yet it's just the "Spiritual Force" (meaning, Spirit, Decay, Air, Fire, Water, Earth) displayed in a cyclical fashion, without any cyclical behavior to them.

    There is fucking nothing.

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