And here we go again.. Why couldn't this be posted in tinker thread #690. Why did we need number 691 about tinkers?
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Tinker fanboys, champions of moving the goal post. Every time "omg next expansion for sure." Nothing happens"omg nobody said next expansion! It will be the following one for sure"
we're all just cogs in the machine of life man....
But honest the only thing that could make me resub is having Tinkers at this point, its such a dumb thing to resub for but I am pretty dumb :P
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Zovaal is a being of Death, not Order.
But, we don't have a tech-based one.
On the other hand, Chromie doesn't have anything related to gears. If they wanted to represent time, why not put an hourglass?
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You said they were hinting at future things in game. How does Elunaria not serve as a Titanic hint?
Because i'm not Teriz?
This is not a thread advocating for Tinkers.
I'm simply wondering if Tinkers would come alongside a Titan expansion, instead of an Undermine one, for example.
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I applaud and cheer all creative and bold directions deeper into the cosmology and high fantasy. Albeit it takes huge amounts of time to get a small piece of that and I think Blizzard need to strongly improve their release cadence.
As for Tinker and Titans... The force of Order represents the Arcane, it always has. The Titan powers are fueled by arcane energy. Secondary to that they also create mechanical constructs powered by arcane magic to serve whatever purpose they deem. The Keepers, the Titan facilities, other constructs like MOTHER, but also arcane beings like Algalon. Furthermore, all higher expressions of arcane mastery include magical constructs, for example the Eredar constructs on Argus or the Dalaran constructs. And then.. the pre-curse of flesh Humans, Gnomes, Dwarves, they were titan constructs.
What we see in this is that those mechanical beings are tools, instruments created for a purpose. They are not a class nor a race. Unless we get a race of sentient constructs, which we could have instead of the Mechagnone grotesque abominations. I doubt they will repeat it.
What they may do is a new type of arcane user that has an aspect of using titan technology or is otherwise empowered by it similar to how the Lightforged are imbued by the Light. That is what seems logical to me. However, as we saw with the amateur lore behind the Void Elves, they can take a good concept and completely mismanage it with ridiculous writing.
We don't need a hint at whether Titan homeworlds exist, Ion already laid it out that they do and we haven't been to one.
What I'm talking about is Blizzard needs to seed an actual *name* to this location before we're going to head there. We know other realms and worlds have existed since WoD and Chronicles, so that's not a surprise or a hint. Argus being known as the Draenei homeworld is a seeded name. K'aresh being a known Ethereal homeworld is a seeded name. Even Xoroth is a name known to us, even if there are no plans to go to this place. We have no information on this Titan homeworld yet in game, so it's not likely that we'd get to explore it until we at least have it known to us beforehand.
Elunaria has nothing to do with Titan Homeworlds, it was just the world where here World Soul ended up resting at. So whatever information you're looking at for hints toward the actual Titan Homeworld is just looking too deep into a place that has no real connection to the Homeworlds in the first place.
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Titans, being pretty much the technical pinnacle of the franchise as we know it, introducing a class of glorified amateurs with barely working tech seems kinda... lame. Titans being represented by something like an extremely crude cogwheel is just the depth of technical knowledge for most artists..
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
I know.
But that gnome is a combination of both tinker and mage.
If they wanted to represent time alone, they would have put an hourglass or something.
What? i don't think that's how it works. We don't, necessarily, need to know its name in order to visit it. Nor does it need to be mentioned by name. Look at Pandaria. Wrathion just tells us, at the end of Cataclysm, that a new land shrouded by mist was rumored to be discovered.
I didn't mean Elunaria had a direct connection to the Titan homeworld. I meant that it serves as a hint towards titanic themes.
None of the titans are really tech savvy. Their creation is, though (Mimiron).
"Toki, Time-Tinker is a gnome featured in the The Witchwood expansion for Hearthstone. A friend of Chronormu, Toki is a time traveler who tinkers with bending time and alternate timelines and is able to create time portals to call for help from legends of the past.[1] Toki represents the "Time-Tinker" class"
Sounds pretty plausible. We could see time travel hub in the 10.0 and the tinker class as well ? Cartel looks like one magic coghweel. Just sayin. Pure speculation.
Tinkers use our Azerothian tech. Why would they be involved in an expansion with tech far beyond our own and why would they still be tossing around our shit after finding titan tech? And if they do covert to titan tech you might as well call them laser knights or some shit because the abilities would be so different it would be like a different class.
Well, I still don't think it's a very likely outcome. Precedent in Hearthstone isn't too reliable, but demonstrates it could be possible in the setting but usually isn't made to be. Would be if more freedom was given to WoW to be more care-free and fun with its lore, but lore of recent years is considered very serious business. As far as potential Tinker from a gear icon in a book go, it's a little off-topic at that point. Anyway, more likely I think is that the cog more is symbolic of Order's place in the cosmos as something that builds things and constructs. Titans are tinkers on kind of a cosmic level, but I wouldn't consider that indicative of a new class or anything. We met with the Titans in Legion, and that didn't exactly lead to a new class. Like, what're we gonna do - visit a Titan home-world or something and suddenly get an interest in Tinkering like they do? It just seems a little far-fetched, when they have had so much opportunity in the past with all the Titan construction and areas over the years to introduce it just as easily. Like, it's not impossible, just not very likely I think when we've seen so much precedent and yet consistently it's been something that has been routinely avoided. It's like 'the one thing that will not happen'. (To be frank, not fond of Tinkers. Not really here nor there, though.)