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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by The Offbeat View Post
    I mean you would be somewhat right but then Pandaria happened too.
    Well, Blizzard was trying to tap into that Asian market/audience. Don't blame them from financial point of view.

    But then again, Blizzard took many inspirations from different cultures, but the key difference is that they still made it feel like a Warcraft game?

    FFXIV still feels like a it was developed in Asia, the skinny males with long hair styles and big swords, flashy animations, it feels like an Aion game which was also developed in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    I never really understood this. What does "Japanese" even mean in this context? Would people even use that as the description if it wasn't a game produced in Japan?

    Is it just because cat-people exist or something? Is that it?

    Feels like an extremely low-effort complaint, honestly.
    I think it doesn't feel like Japanese, but it feels like a game was from Asia, which it is.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by dominatedd View Post
    FFXIV still feels like a it was developed in Asia, the skinny males with long hair styles and big swords, flashy animations, it feels like an Aion game which was also developed in Asia.
    Yes, WoW has no skinny males with long hair and big swords...

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by dominatedd View Post
    Well, Blizzard was trying to tap into that Asian market/audience. Don't blame them from financial point of view.

    But then again, Blizzard took many inspirations from different cultures, but the key difference is that they still made it feel like a Warcraft game?

    FFXIV still feels like a it was developed in Asia, the skinny males with long hair styles and big swords, flashy animations, it feels like an Aion game which was also developed in Asia.
    Ah yes them skinny males, with their long fanciful hair. (not saying they don't exist, but Belf Males exist too. You can choose what you play though.)

    Flashy animations I can't deny of course. But that's par for the course for FF

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    Everything from the art and the cut scenes is just way too japanese for me. Does anyone else feel this way?
    O h w o w you mean to say a game made by a Japanese company is “too Japanese”?!?!

    I just…

  5. #65
    You know the game is getting popular when it's getting so much hate here lately.

    Thanks for the exposure.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Ign agrees
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  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by The Offbeat View Post
    Ah yes them skinny males, with their long fanciful hair. (not saying they don't exist, but Belf Males exist too. You can choose what you play though.)

    Flashy animations I can't deny of course. But that's par for the course for FF

    Compare WoW to any other game that was developed in Asia then compare that Asian game to another Asian game.

    You are just cherry picking at this point.

  8. #68
    My problem isn't that it's Japanese, but that it's Japanese in an annoying way. Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice is very Japanese and I love it, but it draws on different parts of the culture. FFXIV draws on parts of Japanese culture I don't personally enjoy.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by dominatedd View Post
    Compare WoW to any other game that was developed in Asia then compare that Asian game to another Asian game.

    You are just cherry picking at this point.
    WoW has way too many furry races and FFXIV too many human looking ones to make a fair comparison.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Echo of Soul View Post
    WoW has way too many furry races and FFXIV too many human looking ones to make a fair comparison.
    That's subjective. e.g. I would call worgens, dogs not furries.

    You can't compare WoW to FFXIV. FFXIV feels like a game that was developed in Asia, you can comparing more to Asian MMO's then WoW, its just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominatedd View Post
    Compare WoW to any other game that was developed in Asia then compare that Asian game to another Asian game.

    You are just cherry picking at this point.
    Offbeat is making a point here. Yes, there are slender males (elezen, miqo'te, and the upcoming viera), but there are also average men (midlander hyur) and muscular men (highlander hyur, roegadyn, and hrothgar). Midlander men also have a muscle slider that lets you decide how cut and toned you want to look, ditto highlanders of both genders. Roegadyn and hrothgar are Warcraftian in proportions, and the roegadyn rival the draenei in sheer sexual dimorphism.

    Their point is that just like in World of Warcraft, you have several options for what body type you want to play; nobody is forcing you to roll up a Sephiroth clone or go around looking like Great Value Inuyasha. Just like it would be intellectually dishonest to write every WoW character off as "a walking fridge based on some 95-pound geek's power fantasy after he got shoved in lockers one too many times," a lot of these threads bring up disingenuous points as though they're a universal truth simply because they're an option.
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  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by dominatedd View Post
    That's subjective. e.g. I would call worgens, dogs not furries.

    You can't compare WoW to FFXIV. FFXIV feels like a game that was developed in Asia, you can comparing more to Asian MMO's then WoW, its just silly.
    Just wondering, but what is your definition of a furry? I feel like we have wildly differing opinions here, because if you ask me, then yes. A walking talking dog/wolf is a furry.

  13. #73
    I'm not a fan of the aesthetic of FF either. Warcraft has a more iconic look, but I also feel like they've went too Disney in some regards. Cute fox people, the updated Tauren in WoD look nothing like what I imagined them to be since WC3.

    ESO is probably my favorite MMO aesthetic honestly. It has other problems though.

    For the next MMO I play I'd like to see something that's a little darker but still stylized - only game that comes to mind is Darksiders. Maybe Gears of War even.
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  14. #74
    I think the problem might be with JRPG tropes and aesthetics more so than broadly Japanese ones.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Xez View Post
    I think the problem might be with JRPG tropes and aesthetics more so than broadly Japanese ones.
    Which tropes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    I'm not a fan of the aesthetic of FF either. Warcraft has a more iconic look, but I also feel like they've went too Disney in some regards. Cute fox people, the updated Tauren in WoD look nothing like what I imagined them to be since WC3.
    The new Tauren models don't look mean like the old tauren models, but they do look more empathetic. I think it's the eyes. I guess this might have been a good thing since the new models came at a time when WoW started implementing dialogue boxes that had character's talking faces, and cutscenes with closeups on character models (sadly in engine cutscenes in WoW look very silly).

    ESO is probably my favorite MMO aesthetic honestly. It has other problems though.
    I don't like the character models in ESO. They look... uncanny, and... ugly? Skyrim's vanilla faces (for the humans, at least) looked better, though I still wound up having to install face revamp mods to get them to look appealing.

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  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by dominatedd View Post
    That's subjective. e.g. I would call worgens, dogs not furries.

    You can't compare WoW to FFXIV. FFXIV feels like a game that was developed in Asia, you can comparing more to Asian MMO's then WoW, its just silly.
    Humanoid with fur.... its a furry
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  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    Everything from the art and the cut scenes is just way too japanese for me. Does anyone else feel this way?
    It sucks, simple as that. The design of the characters, the school girls crap, the children race, even the weapons/armor is way too japanese. Is actually sad that this game abuses that to the point of making the game silly and ridiculous.

    I have never played a game so boring in terms of "looks" and design like FF14. My male character looks like a cheap version of Sasuke Uchiha using a sword/shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usernameforforums View Post
    Humanoid with fur.... its a furry
    And the cat people is the worst of all.

    This game is just a bunch of sexual themes

  19. #79
    Lazy ass trolling thread .... but strangely effective.

    7/10

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by The Offbeat View Post
    Just wondering, but what is your definition of a furry? I feel like we have wildly differing opinions here, because if you ask me, then yes. A walking talking dog/wolf is a furry.
    Doesn't really matter. As at the end of the day its subjective. E.g. Art, you may see something different in the portrait then the other person, yet yall are looking at the same painting.

    This whole thread is about how OP is bewiledered by the fact that FFXIV has many Japanese culture reference, if not majority and people replying that WoW suffers the same fate, which I argue, it does not, because cherry picking does not equal that WoW has the same problem.

    WoW has many cultural references. E.g. Trolls resemble /explore Jamaican cultures
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