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    MIT predicted society would collapse by 2040. New data tells how we're doing

    Director Advisory, Internal Audit & Enterprise Risk at major accounting firm KPMG, updated the LtG model in a published finding in the Yale Journal of Ecology in November 2020.

    In Herrinton’s estimates, the world’s population, industrial output, food, and resources will rapidly decline. The 2100s will be comparable to the 1900s, according to Vice. However, Herrington is treating her research as a personal project as a precaution to see how well the MIT model holds up.

    Herrington’s study concluded that society has about another decade to change courses and avoid collapse, by investing in sustainable technologies and equitable human development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    MIT predicted society would collapse by 2040. New data tells how we're doing

    Director Advisory, Internal Audit & Enterprise Risk at major accounting firm KPMG, updated the LtG model in a published finding in the Yale Journal of Ecology in November 2020.

    In Herrinton’s estimates, the world’s population, industrial output, food, and resources will rapidly decline. The 2100s will be comparable to the 1900s, according to Vice. However, Herrington is treating her research as a personal project as a precaution to see how well the MIT model holds up.

    Herrington’s study concluded that society has about another decade to change courses and avoid collapse, by investing in sustainable technologies and equitable human development.
    Sustainable technologies exists already but they are not "profitable" not to mention the amount of bribing I mean lobbying behind the old tech makes it near impossible to have them implemented on a wide scale same goes for equitable human development. The ship has sailed we will do something about it when it's too late and impossible to stop.

    Maybe society will change its entire way of living to adapt or collapse in the process either way capitalism is failing big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Herrington’s study concluded that society has about another decade to change courses and avoid collapse, by investing in sustainable technologies and equitable human development.
    That's not what the study concluded.

    It saw that based on the scenarios in the study the two that matched best was that we have already changed course with exceptionally high technological development and adoption will stabilize or that we would collapse in 2040.

    It's just that such a statement wouldn't attract as much attention.
    (That the study cannot tell such radically different outcomes apart hints at a problem, and selecting proxies after the fact is also methodologically problematic - in the 1970/1980s one might have thought of using CFC as a proxy for pollution; but that is no longer an issue.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Sustainable technologies exists already but they are not "profitable"
    Installed wind power has gone from 50TWh to 1,400 TWh per year in this century.
    Solar power generation has gone from even less to >800TWh per year during the same time (might already be 1,000 TWh this year - it's growing exponentially).

    Seems fairly profitable. Obviously more is needed - including other industries but that is worked on, and nimbyism is an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarcube View Post
    barely anyone wears masks here... maybe 1 in 10...
    I was at a concert Friday night (outside) in a city with about 19K population with about 4000 people actually at the concert. I saw two masks...

    That was four hours from home. Here at home, I would estimate masks at less than 5%. City of 140K. Delta is losing momentum here.

    (No political stance taken here, just observing the trends. Midwest US. Also, further discussion of this belongs in the thread about it.)

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    Lets add to the issue; U.S. Population Growth, an Economic Driver, Grinds to a Halt

    Covid-19 pandemic compounds years of birth-rate decline, puts America’s demographic health at risk.

    America’s weak population growth, already held back by a decadelong fertility slump, is dropping closer to zero because of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    In half of all states last year, more people died than were born, up from five states in 2019. Early estimates show the total U.S. population grew 0.35% for the year ended July 1, 2020, the lowest ever documented, and growth is expected to remain near flat this year.


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    Really puts those red states and the rising pandemic death tolls there in perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Lets add to the issue; U.S. Population Growth, an Economic Driver, Grinds to a Halt

    Covid-19 pandemic compounds years of birth-rate decline, puts America’s demographic health at risk.

    America’s weak population growth, already held back by a decadelong fertility slump, is dropping closer to zero because of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    In half of all states last year, more people died than were born, up from five states in 2019. Early estimates show the total U.S. population grew 0.35% for the year ended July 1, 2020, the lowest ever documented, and growth is expected to remain near flat this year.


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    Really puts those red states and the rising pandemic death tolls there in perspective.
    Yeah great article, that's a big problem in general, even if Covid never happened. I try to bring up incentives to increase the population but then opponents just start talking about overpopulation even though there is no such thing.
    Let's spread optimism and defeat pessimism! (HumanProgress.org)

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