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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Folks that say shit to the effect of "I can't believe a natural virus could be so contagious and deadly" are really showing their privilege when it comes to having grown up in a world where a lot of the most lethal and infectious diseases have either been eradicated or have long established treatment protocols.

    It's also showing they weren't paying attention for the past two decades because we've had repeated warnings of the risk of a major zoonotic event taking place in the context of rapid urbanisation and climate change, no lab leak required. But again; claims of malfeasance are entirely intended to shift blame rather than to take responsibility.
    This is a really good point: anyone who thinks it's nefarious-scheme levels of "suspicious" that novel viruses are cropping up in China and anywhere else with high population density and increasing habitat encroachment / destruction rather than a damn near statistical certainty isn't in a position to responsibly opine. One way to tell if you are voluntarily susceptible to having your ignorance exploited is if you hear standard phrases from the scientific community like "can't rule anything out" and latch onto it as definitive proof.

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    What's even more stupid, is that world of privilege was achieved through education, science and vaccines, yet many or even most of the people that are incredulous about a powerful naturally occurring disease, refuse to listen to that education & science about vaccines now.

    Darwin was an optimist.
    This is another depressingly good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Until then, I honestly don't care about anything else much. Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care.
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Yeah, I think it's fair to conclude that "Fuck the poor" "Arch-angel of Riots" is just in it with the hope of inflicting maximum harm for maximum chaos, and since they've shown no particular attachment to any guiding moral, ideological, or political principle, it seems to be for the sake of maximum fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    What's even more stupid, is that world of privilege was achieved through education, science and vaccines, yet many or even most of the people that are incredulous about a powerful naturally occurring disease, refuse to listen to that education & science about vaccines now.

    Darwin was an optimist.
    Bread and circuses basically. Just like the Roman Empire got soft and rotted internally, the same seems to be going on here. Previous generations had to scrape and fight but current ones (and that isn't just the millennials) have never had a challenge. Bad as the pandemic is, it is still not as tough as previous generations have had to deal with.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Previous generations had to scrape and fight but current ones (and that isn't just the millennials) have never had a challenge.
    An utter load of horseshit.

    But I'm sure it's fun to pretend that the recent recessions never happened, and that wages haven't been stagnant for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    An utter load of horseshit.

    But I'm sure it's fun to pretend that the recent recessions never happened, and that wages haven't been stagnant for decades.
    Yeah I guess me having to live in a home with rats and roaches because there was no place else to be and no work during the recession never happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    To paraphrase what you're saying:

    Selling people sewer water and telling them it's a "miracle cure" is duping people. You know your product will not give the customer what they want/believe it will provide.

    Selling those same people copies of Mein Kampf because they're all Nazis and really want their own copy of Mein Kampf, that's not "duping", it's just supply answering demand.

    These people aren't being sold on one thing and getting white supremacy instead. They're being sold white supremacy, and they're eager for it. Stopping someone from selling them white supremacist stuff won't lower their demand for more white supremacy, it'll just increase how desperate they are to get that white supremacy at any cost, as demand remains and supply dwindles, until someone else steps up to feed that demand.
    Sorry but no, it isn't she knows what she is saying they know what they are buying.

    She should have been banned a long time ago along with a bunch of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Bread and circuses basically. Just like the Roman Empire got soft and rotted internally, the same seems to be going on here. Previous generations had to scrape and fight but current ones (and that isn't just the millennials) have never had a challenge. Bad as the pandemic is, it is still not as tough as previous generations have had to deal with.
    650,000+ American civilians are fucking dead. That's basically the amount of soldiers that died in the Civil War from both sides combined.

    And they are dead because the president at the time decided to politicize the virus and act like it wasn't a big deal. No other reason.

    That's more than WWII by like 200k.

    So just fucking stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Sorry but no, it isn't she knows what she is saying they know what they are buying.

    She should have been banned a long time ago along with a bunch of others.
    She should've been banned.

    It won't make anyone who listens to her change their minds. They'll continue to self-radicalize, because MTG isn't the cause of it, she's just stoking the flames. Just banning her and removing her from office does nothing in the long term; her public will just find another source for the hate rhetoric they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Bread and circuses basically. Just like the Roman Empire got soft and rotted internally, the same seems to be going on here. Previous generations had to scrape and fight but current ones (and that isn't just the millennials) have never had a challenge. Bad as the pandemic is, it is still not as tough as previous generations have had to deal with.
    Millenials and Zoomers have had to deal with worse circumstances than any generation since the Great Depression.

    Boomers internalizing their incredible privilege as some kind of "norm" is pretty much at the root of nearly every single societal and economic failure that the world is dealing with today. Up to and including the growing threat of anthropogenic climate change.


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    This thread is a really interesting (and terrifying) breakdown of the chain of weak points that allow disinformation to flourish with a patina of scientific legitimacy--he notes it's been cited elsewhere 22 times according to google scholar: https://pubpeer.com/publications/EB0...A7375C09C83E46

    ETA direct link to the twitter thread: https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/141...872819719?s=20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Until then, I honestly don't care about anything else much. Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care.
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Yeah, I think it's fair to conclude that "Fuck the poor" "Arch-angel of Riots" is just in it with the hope of inflicting maximum harm for maximum chaos, and since they've shown no particular attachment to any guiding moral, ideological, or political principle, it seems to be for the sake of maximum fun.

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    I hope Marge gets enough cash and stupidity to abandon her Congressional seat and run for the Senate nomination in 2022 in GA. Because in Georgia, no candidate in Georgia can run for more than one office including that of member of Congress.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Because previous generations were widely known for their political correctness and racial tolerance. /s

    Calling diseases by locational names hasn't been an acceptable thing for decades.
    And yet when a series of viruses cause major disruption in the world, to put it mildly, it is only natural to look around and ask "now where did that come from?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    And yet when a series of viruses cause major disruption in the world, to put it mildly, it is only natural to look around and ask "now where did that come from?"
    Obviously there are people who continue to research the origins of the virus, but the racist nonsense we’re seeing isn’t helpful. See the Clay Higgins FB post regarding his second bout with covid for reference.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...n__=%2As%2As-R

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    And yet when a series of viruses cause major disruption in the world, to put it mildly, it is only natural to look around and ask "now where did that come from?"
    They come from high population density, habitat destruction, and global travel. Viruses thrive--and mutate--on physical proximity and opportunity. That's it. Unless there's ANY credible evidence to the contrary--and so far there's not--there's nothing more complicated or sinister about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Obviously there are people who continue to research the origins of the virus, but the racist nonsense we’re seeing isn’t helpful. See the Clay Higgins FB post regarding his second bout with covid for reference.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...n__=%2As%2As-R
    Sure, we should keep researching it, but we also can't pinpoint the origins of HIV or the 1918 flu.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Until then, I honestly don't care about anything else much. Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care.
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Yeah, I think it's fair to conclude that "Fuck the poor" "Arch-angel of Riots" is just in it with the hope of inflicting maximum harm for maximum chaos, and since they've shown no particular attachment to any guiding moral, ideological, or political principle, it seems to be for the sake of maximum fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    And yet when a series of viruses cause major disruption in the world, to put it mildly, it is only natural to look around and ask "now where did that come from?"
    Ask, sure. Investigate, certainly.

    Hypothesize radically racist nonsense as a politically convenient scapegoating effort? Fuck that in the ear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Ask, sure. Investigate, certainly.

    Hypothesize radically racist nonsense as a politically convenient scapegoating effort? Fuck that in the ear.
    Absolutely. Minuscule local variations in human genome have nothing to do with the virus. But those looking for someone to blame have their gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Obviously there are people who continue to research the origins of the virus, but the racist nonsense we’re seeing isn’t helpful. See the Clay Higgins FB post regarding his second bout with covid for reference.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...n__=%2As%2As-R
    Holy shit the amount of people in the comments saying they’ve had it twice already.
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  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Holy shit the amount of people in the comments saying they’ve had it twice already.
    Unless they have a test showing they had it the first time I’m inclined to believe they just had the flu and are going, “I’m special, I had covid before we knew it was a thing.” Ignoring the reality of the differences between the two. Hell, see his post. “It’s so much worse this time!”*

    *the only time they verifiably had covid

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    Why is it that whenever I hear her name or see a picture of her, I just get that Cartman song stuck on my mind...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Unless they have a test showing they had it the first time I’m inclined to believe they just had the flu and are going, “I’m special, I had covid before we knew it was a thing.” Ignoring the reality of the differences between the two. Hell, see his post. “It’s so much worse this time!”*

    *the only time they verifiably had covid
    This. I had my last pre-covid trip in Feb of 2020 to Florida and when I got back I got very sick with all the symptoms of covid.

    Except I tested positive for the flu. I didn't have covid.

    If I didn't have that flu test I would be pretty convinced I had covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    This. I had my last pre-covid trip in Feb of 2020 to Florida and when I got back I got very sick with all the symptoms of covid.

    Except I tested positive for the flu. I didn't have covid.

    If I didn't have that flu test I would be pretty convinced I had covid.
    I’ve heard so many people claim they had covid in December or January it’s kinda depressing.

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    Only a temp suspension? She also has advocated murdering people who offer vaccinations. They banned Trump, they should absolutely ban her. This misinformation is getting absurd and has lead to far more deaths than any mass murderer could do running around with a gun.
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    And just like the thread before it, let's back away from sexualizing Azshara and return to the original topic at hand.

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