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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by fearcazic View Post
    I received a survey about this a couple of years ago by the lawyers suing ATVI now. What I told them now (and here) is that what I saw was complete opposite at 3100. We promoted a female to run all of ATVI studios for Call of Duty. She has 0 production experience but started at ATVI as a HR intern. They recently promoted another strong female candidate to head up Call of Duty with little experience with production or Call of Duty franchise. She is smart, very smart though. No doubt both are qualified. COD has been strong and even stronger with them at the helm.

    VV head of studio is female and she is now part of Blizzard leadership. Many of the steakholders I needed approvals from are female. Many leadership roles at the org are female. Everyone was treated fairly, but i'm not saying people are lying. I just never saw it myself. I think ATVI was a great place to work.
    ATVI has almost 10,000 employees, you can't blame every employee with this behavior, and the suit focuses on specific units within Blizzard, and potentially other units in Activision. The complaint originally filed in 2018 was focused on Blizzard, and was amended to include the entire ATVI workforce, so there may be (and most likely are) teams at Activision who engaged in bad behavior, and some that didn't. And, the WoW team has been identified as an egregious violator in the filing, and I've seen no complaints or accusations against other Blizzard teams, like Hearthstone and Diablo, while some complaints have been made against the CS teams. Until the case actually starts, and testimony is given, that's all we know, except for public statements from past and present employees of Blizzard - who are posting in support of the women being represented by the state, the Reddit thread has links to them.

    My conjecture: WoW are the "rock stars" of Blizzard, who made the company blow up into the success they've had, and are given a large amount of lenience and permission from the higher ups, because WoW pays the bills and is their tentpole franchise. The leadership of Blizzard made some very, very, very poor decisions that led to this lawsuit, after scrambling after the initial complaint was filed in 2018 by the state to cover it up.

  2. #222
    What a cute response, meanwhile they make no mention of a Senior's sudden departure, Alex.

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    I love how their statement starts with "we luv divursite". Holy shit i get not having dignity but there should be some limits to scumbaggery.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by exochaft View Post
    If my memory serves me right, ActiBlizz is well within its rights to see the evidence being used against them before litigation. Procedural stuff is not my forte, but I think this is the case.

    Regardless of innocence or guilt, ActiBlizz would likely respond the same way. One has to keep in mind that even filing such claims are a huge PR issue, even if nothing comes out. Heck, these forums have tons of people ready to instantly condemn ActiBlizz just based upon the accusations, which means the PR damage is already being done. The court filing's introduction is just as accusatory as ActiBlizz's statement, as this is how the game is played.

    I think people should always have a healthy bit of skepticism when it comes to matters like these, as it's never just black or white. Personally, I wouldn't put it past the DFEH (as a government body itself) to be embellishing the situation to make it seem way worse than it is. I mean California has never been known to have governmental agencies to overreach or do shady things, right? That's not to say this suit is one such instance, it may be 100% legit, but it also may not be. This is why you want to let these things play out, as you should not just automatically trust government or large corporations and what they tell you without verification.
    This is also a good point.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/cali...-coffee-2018-4

    California cancer warnings are a perfect example of this. Legally required to label literally everything a cancer risk or risk being sued. California says "Coffee" and "staying at a hotel" is a cancer risk. California over reacts about everything besides dealing with homeless people.
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  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    sounds like it goes back to atleast 2013.

    https://twitter.com/skrutsick/status...06293495762944
    8 years to post about something....
    that was supposedly mentally scarring,

    and caused a lot of pain?>


    why dont these people speak up sooner.....
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    If you are trying to AE tank and a bad dps is attacking the wrong target and dies, we call that justice.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Kikazz View Post
    8 years to post about something....
    that was supposedly mentally scarring,

    and caused a lot of pain?>


    why dont these people speak up sooner.....
    There's a few reasons, fear of being fired for example, not to mention this kind of behaviour is quite normalised. There's an expectation for these women to just "deal with it" so to say

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Demsi View Post
    There's a few reasons, fear of being fired for example, not to mention this kind of behaviour is quite normalised. There's an expectation for these women to just "deal with it" so to say
    8 years is a long time. If something was that bad, you would not deal with it for that long in the real world...

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Funny thing, cause Blizzard was part of SJW 'culture' and witch hunts. I remind that people like Swifty or voice actor for Kael'Thas were thrown under a bus just with accusation as well. I guess this is karma. I think more people from community would back Blizzard in hard time like now if Blizzard wouldn't pretend they don't know a guy from community 5 minutes after witch hunt starts.
    That one is especially interesting. Quinton Flynn was fired on even less than accusations....the public announcement of his firing was made weeks after his accuser was blasted in court. She had been sock-puppetting and stalking him, his wife, and his family, and admitted to such(begrudgingly) in court. Sadly, she is severely mentally ill(per her own admission, since before knowing him) and needs help. Quinton just wanted to get an order stopping her, he didn't sue her for a dime.

    So Blizz fired a guy on disproven allegations who treated his accuser with absolute tact...

  9. #229
    Out of all of this I didn't realize this stuff was from old school Blizzard not just the new Activision crowd. So Blizz was full of dirtbag sexual harassment scum since before and early WoW days. Ugh.

    I'm totally unsubbing and my kids will be too. We're done and won't give money to a company like this, they swept serious stuff under the rug like it’s no big deal and even told some that complained about it to chill out and act like nothing happened. WTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    This is also a good point.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/cali...-coffee-2018-4

    California cancer warnings are a perfect example of this. Legally required to label literally everything a cancer risk or risk being sued. California says "Coffee" and "staying at a hotel" is a cancer risk. California over reacts about everything besides dealing with homeless people.
    There's even a cancer warning on the miniature paints i use 0_0

    Another day, another Deal....

  11. #231
    Yeah, Where is the chart that shows male feminists in blue and sexual predators in red? its a purple chart cause this always happens.

    Blizzard stands for Morales in the gaming community yet in their own fucking backyard its a sesspool, less concern about gamers more concern about themselves.

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    I look forward to seeing the usual pearl clutchers that condemn absolutely everyone over anything, even unproven accusations, rip their shirts off and leap into the field to fight to the death to defend this company.

    Also, deserves to be posted again and as many times as possible:

  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim32 View Post
    8 years is a long time. If something was that bad, you would not deal with it for that long in the real world...
    you've lived a charmed life if you think that.
    getting used to abuse is common there is a rat study about it, over time the rat learns to deal with being shocked every day but if you put in a second rat the outlet finally happens, thing is if its your boss there is no outlet.
    Make sure if you still play your voice is heard if it matters to you, Mine wasn't.
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    BFA is another failure on Blizzard for leaving out information yet again despite promising communication with players while Azerite armor is an unfun system forced onto us to keep us grinding.

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post

    lol. I feel vindicated after years of saying blizzard sucks
    tbh we don't have the full story and context here. If she was this badly mistreated at her job to commit suicide, it's likely there's other stuff to that story we don't know. Any sane person would've quit this job waaaaaay before all that.

    I can understand that people in poor countries or with bad education can't easily quit their job and find a new one, but in this branch or just IT in general this really isn't the case.

    All in all, this is really bad, but we don't know the full story yet and this statement is extremely vague and sounds like they are trying to imply something without any details or evidence, yet.
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  15. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyral View Post
    I look forward to seeing the usual pearl clutchers that condemn absolutely everyone over anything, even unproven accusations, rip their shirts off and leap into the field to fight to the death to defend this company.

    Also, deserves to be posted again and as many times as possible:
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post53297144

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMugabe View Post
    tbh we don't have the full story and context here. If she was this badly mistreated at her job to commit suicide, it's likely there's other stuff to that story we don't know. Any sane person would've quit this job waaaaaay before all that.

    I can understand that people in poor countries or with bad education can't easily quit their job and find a new one, but in this branch or just IT in general this really isn't the case.

    All in all, this is really bad, but we don't know the full story yet and this statement is extremely vague and sounds like they are trying to imply something without any details or evidence, yet.
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post53297144

  16. #236
    ...who gave that response, was it JAB? Good fucking lord.

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Fabled View Post
    ...who gave that response, was it JAB? Good fucking lord.
    It is legit an awful, gaslight response.

    I think it was one of their PR people.

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    What a cute response, meanwhile they make no mention of a Senior's sudden departure, Alex.
    "In cases related to misconduct, action was taken to address the issue". Seems pretty straight forward to me. He did some misconduct and is no longer working there.

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    Right, harassment is fine if they were in a relationship prior. And a man can't rape his wife. Keep fighting the good fight, bud.
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  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyral View Post
    Right, harassment is fine if they were in a relationship prior. And a man can't rape his wife. Keep fighting the good fight, bud.
    The post literally has nothing to do with happened. We have no idea.

    Has everything to do with how it’s reported.

    Way over your head apparently.

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