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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
    i agree and have called them out on that before. I didn't dismiss the details of the case at all and called it pretty ugly because i kinda believe it's true.
    yeaaaah... there have been rumblings of this for years now..

  2. #142
    IF this proves to be true. They should get what they deserve… everybody!
    But even for those people it innocent until proven otherwise. With all these claims of sexual harassment around, some dating back 10 years (e.g. Marilyn Mason). I‘m very careful what to believe. Remember: There have been at least 2 waves of Billzard employed getting fired. So, I guess there are quite a few miffed people out there… that could use some sort of compensation.
    True: They have quite the list of wrongdoings there and if only a small part of that has really happend, it’s time for some punishment.
    If all of that is true, the only way to save Blizzard is letting more heads roll that during the French Revolution.
    But even with 30% Trumpsters around, the USA is still a country with a functional jurisdiction. So let them do the work and save the witch-hunt for later.

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    Color me shocked.

    I have yet to work at a single male-dominated workplace that didn't have that sort of behaviour. And yes, it goes back to "the old guard", before people try to claim that it's a new thing at the company.

    Puts Afrasiabis' sudden departure in a very different light, as well as how quick they were to fire Kael'thas' voice actor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVargK View Post
    Anyone know why the court filing speaks of "Crosby suite" and "Bill Crosby" instead of Cosby?

    Also that teleporter thing and renown from Torghast are top tier QoL changes.
    I wondered that too. maybe because they didn't want to use his actual name, I dunno?

  5. #145
    Two things.

    1. The Born Anew change exemplifies how Blizzard is ONLY focused on raiding/Mythic+, they destroyed a conduit because someone used it to get a numbers advantage they didn't want. Doesn't matter that the conduit is now not worth taking for anyone, they just had to make sure that people couldn't do new or interesting things with their skills.

    2. Damn it Blizzard, if your going to push out garbage games and remakes the LEAST you could do is not have a toxic corporate culture that keeps reminding me why I shouldn't support you.....

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    I wondered that too. maybe because they didn't want to use his actual name, I dunno?
    It is either a typo or those they spoke to called it that and they're simply replicating it. However, I lean toward the former.

    You'd be amazed at the amount of typos I've seen in legal documents. Even simple stuff like State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    It is either a typo or those they spoke to called it that and they're simply replicating it. However, I lean toward the former.

    You'd be amazed at the amount of typos I've seen in legal documents. Even simple stuff like State.
    typo or not the inference is pretty bloody clear

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    Well this would probably explain the serious decline in WoW game content. If the frat-boys within the Warcraft dev team were too busy playing CoD deathmatches, cube crawling around ladies' cubicles and engaging in all other kinds of degenerate behaviour instead of working on the game, it would easily explain why Blizz went from pushing out 8+ raids and 12+ dungeons during an expansion to a sliver of that in later releases.

    They also probably ran out of women to delegate their work to because word gets around that workplaces become toxic.

    Blizzard were once the games company that everybody looked up to and dreamed of working at. It's now a shell of what it once was and a mark of shame on everyone's resume.

    This news just makes me livid.

  9. #149
    Jesus Christ. Every time this company somehow manages to sink itself lower and lower. Goes to show the hypocrisy of these major companies who say they stand besides those people, yet behind the curtains you get shit like this. And to think some people will still trust and defend Blizzard...

  10. #150
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    Terrible, but hardly surprising. And this starts from the wider layers and the higher you go the worse it becomes. I see it happening while I game, I'm sure rich entitled businessmen would do worse with their power. This kind of sexual harassment, degradation and inequality happens to all fields, but the way it happens in gaming communities makes it way more immature. Can't help but be reminded of that Rioter farting on co workers' faces.

  11. #151
    Imagine releasing shitty games and being a shitty company to boot.

    "You think you've hit the bottom, but you don't".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clbull View Post
    Well this would probably explain the serious decline in WoW game content. If the frat-boys within the Warcraft dev team were too busy playing CoD deathmatches, cube crawling around ladies' cubicles and engaging in all other kinds of degenerate behaviour instead of working on the game, it would easily explain why Blizz went from pushing out 8+ raids and 12+ dungeons during an expansion to a sliver of that in later releases.

    They also probably ran out of women to delegate their work to because word gets around that workplaces become toxic.

    Blizzard were once the games company that everybody looked up to and dreamed of working at. It's now a shell of what it once was and a mark of shame on everyone's resume.

    This news just makes me livid.
    It could also be likely the drop would be from firing people involved in stuff like this or having them “step down” before they could be properly replaced.

    We already know one person who silently sweped under the rug who knows how many others were to.
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  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    To make it easier to get further employment else where? That’s like asking why she kept the money she got from working there instead of throwing it away.
    You have LinkedIn to list your employment history.
    Not a single recruiter will look into your Twitter to verify your past employers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruka View Post
    Seems like a toxic place to work, might explain why the quality of the game has dropped.
    The investigation started more than two years ago, which means this behavior isn't (only) a recent phenomenon. This started before a lot of the recent high profile departures and had to have been going for quite a while.

    Alex Afrasiabi (one of the Blizzard "old guard") is the only defendant outright named in the lawsuit, which explains why he up and vanished without any explanation just over a year ago. Hard to say whether Afrasiabi's departure was part of them cleaning house, or if it was just trying to sweep things under the rug.

    Their former CTO (presumably Ben Kilgore) is also mentioned. Kilgore had been in the position since 2014 before leaving in 2018.

    The lawsuit also makes it abundantly clear that the executives knew about his behavior, and that Brack didn't do enough to curb it. Work culture like this only exists when seniors / supervisors allow or encourage it.

    It's kind of hard to imagine that the rest of the "old guard" wasn't aware of this. Afrasiabi was a lead since BC and was one of the faces of the game for years, alongside Brack, Metzen, Kaplan, and others.

    It makes you wonder about other recent departures, though his in particular was extremely suspicious.

  15. #155
    If the legal report is to be believed then this is mostly about the older Blizzard crew. And if this is true then everyone should be directing their hate to Dreamhaven. Ever wonder why the OG crew has been dropping like flies? It's called a clansing. Don't let these monsters get away scott free by singling out Blizzard.

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Encrow View Post
    If the legal report is to be believed then this is mostly about the older Blizzard crew. And if this is true then everyone should be directing their hate to Dreamhaven. Ever wonder why the OG crew has been dropping like flies? It's called a clansing. Don't let these monsters get away scott free by singling out Blizzard.
    no, this includes the people at the very top who allowed this behavior to go on in an entire department of their company.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Encrow View Post
    If the legal report is to be believed then this is mostly about the older Blizzard crew. And if this is true then everyone should be directing their hate to Dreamhaven. Ever wonder why the OG crew has been dropping like flies? It's called a clansing. Don't let these monsters get away scott free by singling out Blizzard.
    Did you miss the fact that the current CEO of Blizzard condoned these acts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moozart View Post
    connect the dots la la la la! connect the dots la la la la

    Lots of Blizz employees have bailed over the last few years while this investigation was going on... ironic?
    Trying to make sure they didnt get caught for what they did.-

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    typo or not the inference is pretty bloody clear
    Oh definitely! Not saying it wasn't. Like you said, you can tell what they meant by it.

    Just saying, there's copious amounts of typos in legal documents. You'd think there wouldn't but I've seen a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    You have LinkedIn to list your employment history.
    Not a single recruiter will look into your Twitter to verify your past employers.
    A recruiter might not but other employees can/do which can lead to suggestions gettin passed up the line.
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