Activision-Blizzard Sued By California

[uuuhname]

It's not exactly a dead horse when the horse is very much alive and promoting a toxic environment at Activision-Blizzard, bruh.

don't tell him about YouTube channels like the Quartering, might throw a wrench in that narrative.

[Santti]

I see the gaters are still living rent free in your head

Uhhh...

Did you just identify as one of the misogynistic bastards of the gamergate, there? Because it totally reads like it.

[Rennadrel]

Uhhh...

Did you just identify as one of the misogynistic bastards of the gamergate, there? Because it totally reads like it.

Nah, I just get amused that people are still hammering on about it 6 years later and won't let it die. Also cute of you to call women who supported it misogynists.

[Elegiac]

Nah, I just get amused that people are still hammering on about it 6 years later and won't let it die.

Because, again, it remains as much of a cancerous presence in the video game community now as it was 6 years ago.

We wish it would die, but as this latest incident demonstrates that isn't going to be done by just ignoring the problem. So grats on getting to feel smug about winning a fight that helped encourage a highly toxic and predatory environment at Blizzard, I guess?

[uuuhname]

Because, again, it remains as much of a cancerous presence in the video game community now as it was 6 years ago.

We wish it would die, but as this latest incident demonstrates that isn't going to be done by just ignoring the problem. So grats on getting to feel smug about winning a fight that helped encourage a highly toxic and predatory environment at Blizzard, I guess?

and gave us an entire internet ecosystem of drunken dweebs screaming about "woke culture".

[Santti]

Nah, I just get amused that people are still hammering on about it 6 years later and won't let it die. Also cute of you to call women who supported it misogynists.

It's still very much relevant. That's all there is to say. Just like we've had police beat the everliving shit out of black people, but I don't see you go around saying "blue lives matter supporters are living rent free in your head". Why choose to say that shit about this topic, in particular, if you are not one of those pricks that enabled/supported it yourself, is my question.

[Rennadrel]

It's still very much relevant. That's all there is to say. Just like we've had police beat the everliving shit out of black people, but I don't see you go around saying "blue lives matter supporters are living rent free in your head". Why choose to say that shit about this topic, in particular, if you are not one of those pricks that enabled/supported it yourself, is my question.

I mean, you are comparing a trend that is barely a year old and not out of the public lexicon over one that started back in 2014 and was finished by 2016, so that's a false equivalent. I say that line to literally everyone who brings it up, for what it's worth. And the only people who still bring it up are those who were against it. I can't say I've seen anyone who supported it bringing it up.

[Elegiac]

I mean, you are comparing a trend that is barely a year old and not out of the public lexicon over one that started back in 2014 and was finished by 2016

Except it didn't finish by 2016, as this lawsuit clearly demonstrates.

[Elegiac]

It’s crazy people are out here admitting they never understood what Gamergate’s point was. Still out here using the same lines of defense that were bullshit 5+ years ago. If you don’t see the problems in the industry you aren’t paying attention.

Nah, I believe they entirely understood what the point was.

Their pretending otherwise is a function of them not wanting to own up to the fact that people being held accountable for sexist behavior hits close to home. When Afrasiabi gets pulled up for harassing women, they remember all the times they harassed women too.

[Hollycakes]

It’s crazy people are out here admitting they never understood what Gamergate’s point was. Still out here using the same lines of defense that were bullshit 5+ years ago. If you don’t see the problems in the industry you aren’t paying attention.

SO much this lol. Creeps gotta creep.

[Orby]

It's still very much relevant. That's all there is to say. Just like we've had police beat the everliving shit out of black people, but I don't see you go around saying "blue lives matter supporters are living rent free in your head". Why choose to say that shit about this topic, in particular, if you are not one of those pricks that enabled/supported it yourself, is my question.

To be fair, BLM is a lot clearer than Gamergate every was. Gamergate was a hot fuckling mess on both sides, just a bunch of finger pointing and name calling and a war on twitter that achieved nothing but make people more angrier.

[MrLachyG]

shocking how this sort of behavior goes all the way to the top.

not really. those with power over others sometimes abuse it; especially predators like this Afrasiabi fella seems to have been

[Draco-Onis]

not really. those with power over others sometimes abuse it; especially predators like this Afrasiabi fella seems to have been

Think he was being sarcastic.

[Soon-TM]

I mean, you are comparing a trend that is barely a year old and not out of the public lexicon over one that started back in 2014 and was finished by 2016, so that's a false equivalent. I say that line to literally everyone who brings it up, for what it's worth. And the only people who still bring it up are those who were against it. I can't say I've seen anyone who supported it bringing it up.

Do you really believe that the factors that caused Gamergate went away just because the controversy itself ended in 2016? Please tell me that you aren't that... naive.

[Rennadrel]

Do you really believe that the factors that caused Gamergate went away just because the controversy itself ended in 2016? Please tell me that you aren't that... naive.

I mean, have you looked at the absolute garbage tier quality of games reviews and news coming out of sites like Kotaku, Polygon and The Gamer over the last few years? Or how about all of these sites slandering and harassing people in the gaming industry and spreading lies about everyone from developers to voice actors in complete lock-step? Yet you think the gators were in the wrong? Look, I don't condone bullying and harassing anyone which I know a lot of them did, but god damn games journalism has some serious ethical issues right now and a crap ton of collusion that is so blatantly obvious to anyone with a pulse.

Anyway, this is getting off topic, so apologies mods for sidetracking the conversation.

[Endus]

I mean, have you looked at the absolute garbage tier quality of games reviews and news coming out of sites like Kotaku, Polygon and The Gamer over the last few years? Or how about all of these sites slandering and harassing people in the gaming industry and spreading lies about everyone from developers to voice actors in complete lock-step? Yet you think the gators were in the wrong? Look, I don't condone bullying and harassing anyone which I know a lot of them did, but god damn games journalism has some serious ethical issues right now and a crap ton of collusion that is so blatantly obvious to anyone with a pulse.

Anyway, this is getting off topic, so apologies mods for sidetracking the conversation.

Games journalism was always primarily marketing. It continues to primarily be marketing.

As for sites "slandering and harassing people in the gaming industry", i don't believe that even exists.

Gamergate was an excuse for misogynists to attack women and pat themselves on the back for doing so. It kicked off by trying to slutshame a female developer.

You can't seriously believe the Gamergaters were in the right.

[Elegiac]

Sooo.... yeah, apparently work on World of Warcraft has ground to a halt as a result of the higher ups mismanaging this crisis.

[Orange Joe]

Games journalism was always primarily marketing. It continues to primarily be marketing.

As for sites "slandering and harassing people in the gaming industry", i don't believe that even exists.

Gamergate was an excuse for misogynists to attack women and pat themselves on the back for doing so. It kicked off by trying to slutshame a female developer.

You can't seriously believe the Gamergaters were in the right.

Are you saying it was impossible for people to be against the misogyny while also against people in press taking kickbacks for + reviews.

[Endus]

Are you saying it was impossible for people to be against the misogyny while also against people in press taking kickbacks for + reviews.

I'm saying that nobody ever took media reviews for games seriously, because everyone knew they were bought-and-paid-for. Major magazines that never gave anything under a 7/10, and even that only for the worst of the worst.

There wasn't a reason to support that, but the backlash that sprang up had nothing to do with that status quo. It had to do with wanting to slutshame a particular female developer who was seen as too "woke" by a certain subset of people. So they made up a baseless claim that she'd slept with reviewers to get good reviews. Which she hadn't.

Gamergate was entirely focused on that, rather than the big magazines that were selling "reviews" that were basically paid-for marketing.

[Easo]

All I can say is that I am incredibly disappointed. Someone here said that his soul would die if Metzen was involved/knew too. I can only agree with that sentiment...