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  1. #801
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    To me this is the same as saying antifa and blm never had a valid position just chaos and riots.


    But we are clearly going to have to agree to disagree on gamergate.
    It's like saying Proud Boys never had a valid position, just chaos and riots, which is true.

    I was here when the original thread was "Five Guys Burgers and Fries" because a woman had the temerity to fuck whomever she pleased, and I was here for the retcon(s). Endus is absolutely right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Until then, I honestly don't care about anything else much. Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care.
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Yeah, I think it's fair to conclude that "Fuck the poor" "Arch-angel of Riots" is just in it with the hope of inflicting maximum harm for maximum chaos, and since they've shown no particular attachment to any guiding moral, ideological, or political principle, it seems to be for the sake of maximum fun.

  2. #802
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    The argument can be made that we all should.

    But that would hurt a lot of low- and mid-level employees, including the ones who were harrassed while management would probably be cushioned from the financial fallout.
    I haven't given money to Blizz in years, so I'm not emotionally invested in any of it. That said, yeah the games involve a lot of people that didn't have anything to do with the issues cited, so just cutting them loose via cancellations will blow up a lot of workers in the death star...
    Of course, the main thing that needs to be done is a house cleaning, which must come from higher ups and they will only react to stock-holders threatening their jobs, I'd think. If the boycott is large enough to attract that attention it'll be worth while. I'm sure plenty of people don't even know about the case.

    Leaving aside the illegal stuff, could you imagine being a shareholder and reading about the keg parties during work hours? Then add on all the rest, and for the cold hearted, the imminent fines when California inevitably wins their case. The only real issue will be once the reaping starts, if they'll have enough qualified/ talented people left, or if most of their talent were shitbags to start...
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  3. #803
    Quote Originally Posted by Roanda View Post
    The simple fact there is a derogatory term for "Social Justice" on planet earth speaks volume how this planet sucks ass.
    People could spend their time and energy fighting against oppression and injustice...but no...lets fucking fight against "Social Justice".

    The only social justice that is "wrong" is when people LIE for PERSONAL GAINS.

    Planet earth is doomed...yeah...lets keep fighting againt those "SJW's"....those bastards
    Lol, words mean nothing, slogans are co-opted. What social justice warriors do and what they say are two different things, which are both miles away from the ideology of what "social justice" could mean to a virgin mind. I guess because national socialism has negative conotation also means this planet sucks ass? Just becauise something has X in its name doesn't mean it has anything to actually do with X. Much less today. Look for actions, not words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svifnymr View Post
    Leaving aside the illegal stuff, could you imagine being a shareholder and reading about the keg parties during work hours? Then add on all the rest, and for the cold hearted, the imminent fines when California inevitably wins their case. The only real issue will be once the reaping starts, if they'll have enough qualified/ talented people left, or if most of their talent were shitbags to start...
    Clearly shareholders don't give a fuck, since the stock is more expensive than it was when this news broke.

  4. #804


    Here's Jim's view on this, I used to think he was a bit extreme in his views of the games industry, but I'm starting to come round with yet more reports of sleaze and predatory practices, add on top of that with the amount of 1/2 finished games being put out, cash shops, loot crates, DLC and other egregious shit they put in games to tempt you into buying extra shit! Being a gamer used to be a lot more fun.

    I hope this doesn't ruin Blizzard totally, as the vast majority of its employees will be decent people, but I hope those who perpetrated and those at the top who turned a blind eye are kicked to the kerb/prison.

  5. #805
    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post
    Lol, words mean nothing, slogans are co-opted. What social justice warriors do and what they say are two different things, which are both miles away from the ideology of what "social justice" could mean to a virgin mind. I guess because national socialism has negative conotation also means this planet sucks ass? Just becauise something has X in its name doesn't mean it has anything to actually do with X. Much less today. Look for actions, not words.
    The fact the term exists is still mindboggling.
    Is an incridibly powerful term.

    Is completely impossible for someone to point out a simple social injustice without being called that term at least once.

    And i have no clue why there is MILLIONS of dedicated groups to "fight" against SJWs.
    Please explain to me why such groups even exist.

    Why would anyone spend a second of their life to fight against...this?

    People who dedicate their life to fight against this "evil identities spawned from hell" called SJW...is not only a waste of energy and time...they are also INCREDIBLY mudding the water and making everyone confused.
    Not only is a pointless "fight", it is also not helping anyone and it ends up creating more tribalism.

    IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    The argument can be made that we all should.

    But that would hurt a lot of low- and mid-level employees, including the ones who were harrassed while management would probably be cushioned from the financial fallout.
    But then if we ask for return of the money we spent, we are rapists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocturnus View Post
    Eh, actually he’s right. If you’re complaining about the down-time due to this issue, you’re not valuing the issue enough and thus are a cunt, like the rapist cunts at blizzard.
    No, I am not! I paid them to make the game better, not so that they could take the money and rape their co-workers! Yet this is what they did! And now claiming that I am responsible for the rapes? The real cunt is them! Each and every one of them! Even the one claiming to be on the side of the victims! Right now what they are doing is diverting the blame and fist-pumping! Fuck them! I hope they all get fired!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuujin View Post
    Well, no. That's not what he said at all.

    I take it you're one of the people who are going to complain the next patch is going to take longer so now you're trying to rile up everyone else to make yourself feel better about not giving a shit about what's happening to their female workers.
    The next patch would always come later, I am willing to bet they have not even started working on it. This is all just excuse to not work and keep taking our money! We should all unsub right at the moment, I did and moved on to FF14! Can't believe I actually did it and I would ever do it but I did, all thanks to these pieces of shit rapists!
    Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos was the game that brought me into gaming. I was 17 years old then, I abhorred gaming before this game. From then on, I became a fan of Warcraft and Blizzard. To see it all go down the drain like this is truly sad for me. No king rules forever but at least some of them went down in history as real badasses. I hoped Blizzard and Warcraft would be one of them but it is no longer possible.

  7. #807
    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post

    Clearly shareholders don't give a fuck, since the stock is more expensive than it was when this news broke.
    I'm sure any protest will probably be small enough numbers to not make a big dent in overall profit. I only noticed this story from this thread, and I didn't even click on this thread for a while because I figured it was just some singular whining, rather than an actual story. So I wonder how many shareholders even follow things until they see a stock price hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    To me this is the same as saying antifa and blm never had a valid position just chaos and riots.
    Says a lot more about you than it does about what was said. Lol.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  9. #809
    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    For me Blizzard is tainted at its roots,.
    Blizzard has no roots anymore, that's the issue imho. The people that made the company was it is today have long since left for various reason. The company has just been a shell of its former self for many years now and I think people are finally starting to wash away the nostalgia dust clouding their vision. And then this lawsuit happened.

    It's like I told a buddy the other day: The state of Shadowlands caused me to unsub, the lawsuit caused me to uninstall.

  10. #810
    "guys im like totally against seexism and racism so im quitting wow for ff14"

    (indirectly supporting a government with an actual emperor that by law can only be a male and only people of the majority ethnicity are allowed to be citizens, and woman still mostly forced into traditional roles, not to mention gays/trans people still having zero rights) to own that corporation who had a few allegations(not yet proven in court) those people are the worst. i get it if you hate on blizz but dont simp for a japanese company in its place if anything the problem in japan is 10x worst because its dominant culture there and gets absolutely ZERO criticism vs western companies who do put in actual effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    "guys im like totally against seexism and racism so im quitting wow for ff14"
    This is not "simping for a company", bruh.

    Just say you're annoyed WoW is dying and looking for excuses to bash the competition rather than try and spin it into some ethical stance. Lol.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  12. #812
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    I see you're wasting time complaining about the jokey phrasing than providing literally anything to back yourself up and contradict me.
    Ahh so you can make a joke but I can't, I see how it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Ahh so you can make a joke but I can't, I see how it is.
    "Jokes" made in bad taste generally aren't funny to decent people, yes.

    Then again there seems to be this notion that you can say the most vile and hateful shit imaginable but adding "jk" on the end makes it acceptable when... No, it just makes the speaker an ass.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  14. #814
    Quote Originally Posted by BrintoSFJ View Post
    But then if we ask for return of the money we spent, we are rapists!

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    No, I am not! I paid them to make the game better, not so that they could take the money and rape their co-workers! Yet this is what they did! And now claiming that I am responsible for the rapes? The real cunt is them! Each and every one of them! Even the one claiming to be on the side of the victims! Right now what they are doing is diverting the blame and fist-pumping! Fuck them! I hope they all get fired!

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    The next patch would always come later, I am willing to bet they have not even started working on it. This is all just excuse to not work and keep taking our money! We should all unsub right at the moment, I did and moved on to FF14! Can't believe I actually did it and I would ever do it but I did, all thanks to these pieces of shit rapists!
    You didn't pay them to make a game better. You paid for access to a game. Said access does not give you the right to decide that pushing out patch 9.X is more important than Blizzard addressing its internal issues and treatment of it's female employees.

    You aren't entitled to shit.

    If you want to unsubscribe, go right ahead.

  15. #815
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    "Jokes" made in bad taste generally aren't funny to decent people, yes.

    Then again there seems to be this notion that you can say the most vile and hateful shit imaginable but adding "jk" on the end makes it acceptable when... No, it just makes the speaker an ass.
    *taps the sign*

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    *taps the sign*
    It's also hella ironic given that a lot of the harassment at Blizzard was apparently being normalized under the guise of "it's just a joke".
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    *taps the sign*
    I'm sorry if that's hard for you to hear because you think you're the hero of your own story, but you're a footnote in everyone else's
    *blank stare*
    Someone get my man a step ladder cause that fella was just dumpstered.

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    I just read the entire lawsuit. I just do not know what to say. I feel terrible for the employees and it really galvanizes myself as a manager.

    How could a billion dollar company fuck up so hard? Who is their worthless PR agency?

    A mediocre cost of doing business fine will not be enough. I expect top management to resign, problem employees to be fire and criminal charges to be filed against the worst perps.

    Shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zEmini View Post
    How could a billion dollar company fuck up so hard? Who is their worthless PR agency?
    Bush' former torture apologist. No, I'm not joking.
    Every heartwarming human interest story in America is like "he raised $20,000 to keep 200 orphans from being crushed in the orphan-crushing machine" and then never asks why an orphan-crushing machine exists or why you'd need to pay to prevent it from being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    so ? Teacher is about teaching, not education.

  20. #820
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Bush' former torture apologist. No, I'm not joking.
    She's their "corporate affairs" director, and I guarantee that her email was not run through internal PR first. No PR person worth their salt would have green lit that letter.

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