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  1. #1421
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    You're making a lot of ridiculous and inflammatory assumptions. I don't think it's pointless minutiae to point out that posing with a pic of Bill Cosby in 2013 does not equal being guilty of sexual harassment. I'm thinking specifically of GC here, not the person named in the lawsuit.
    This thread is about the lawsuit and events and actions related so too.

    Not quibbling about pointless minutia to defend greg 'we have to do better' street (especially after releasing a preemptive statement already makes him look light a tool in light of this). There is already one claim that someone invited to the party by greg 'I saw nothing' street was harassed at said party EDIT: Although not by him.
    Is greg 'It wasn't a good answer then and it's not now' street guilty of direct harassment or willful blindness? Who knows. The absolute best case for him is he comes off looking like he has a chronic case of foot in mouth and being splashed by the shit flying around.

    Going back to my greater point. Assumptions yes but well-founded ones, we're all grown-ups here (one would hope) we can all understand how implicit statement works. No one goes to the mat trying to suck oxygen away from a sexual harassment claim by quibbling over why a room was named after rapist bill cosby without a greater agenda.
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  2. #1422
    For anyone defending the "Cosby suite" name...

    1. While the accusations against him may not have exploded until 2014, they were still known to many people before then.

    2. Even putting aside all the accusations, Cosby himself had effectively been putting himself out there as a total creep and rapist for decades. Just watch this clip of an interview with him from 1991 where he talks about drugging women to have sex with them (you can skip ahead to 15 seconds):



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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    but then there's gonna be a sad realization of no more Warcraft, Diablo (Diablo 4 canceled news), Starcraft, Overwatch. And then it'll be "was it worth it" for a lot of gamers
    Considering that most of those are dead or dead trash quality for many years now, there really isn't anything to save at Blizzard.

  4. #1424
    looks like the tide is turning against the woke
    cosby suite found out to have nothing to due with bill cosbys allegations which came long after
    blizzard overcompensating by adding "safespaces" making them look ridiculous
    devs not working on game and accusing players who want them to work on game as sexist because there to busy doing protests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltysquidoon View Post
    This thread is about the lawsuit and events and actions related so too.

    Not quibbling about pointless minutia to defend greg 'we have to do better' street (especially after releasing a preemptive statement already makes him look light a tool in light of this). There is already one claim that someone invited to the party by greg 'I saw nothing' street was harassed at said party EDIT: Although not by him.
    Is greg 'It wasn't a good answer then and it's not now' street guilty of direct harassment or willful blindness? Who knows. The absolute best case for him is he comes off looking like he has a chronic case of foot in mouth and being splashed by the shit flying around.

    Going back to my greater point. Assumptions yes but well-founded ones, we're all grown-ups here (one would hope) we can all understand how implicit statement works. No one goes to the mat trying to suck oxygen away from a sexual harassment claim by quibbling over why a room was named after rapist bill cosby without a greater agenda.
    What his comments show are that it was so normalised that he either didn't recognise it, or didn't feel able to speak out over it. Neither situation reflects well on him, and even worse on the company.

  6. #1426
    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    looks like the tide is turning against the woke
    Nope.


    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    cosby suite found out to have nothing to due with bill cosbys allegations which came long after
    Not true.


    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    blizzard overcompensating by adding "safespaces" making them look ridiculous
    Wrong again.


    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    devs not working on game and accusing players who want them to work on game as sexist
    0-for-4, better luck next time.

  7. #1427
    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    looks like the tide is turning against the woke
    cosby suite found out to have nothing to due with bill cosbys allegations which came long after
    blizzard overcompensating by adding "safespaces" making them look ridiculous
    devs not working on game and accusing players who want them to work on game as sexist because there to busy doing protests
    That you know of. It could be a coincidence or it could be a reference. We’ll possibly know once more information becomes available.

    Right now though it’s not a good light to be spotted in.

  8. #1428
    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    looks like the tide is turning against the woke
    I am not sure why people think blizzard is "woke" from Blizzchung to how Bobby is a big GOP donor and the fact that a lot of the executives are made up of former republican administration employee including the Bush torture lady. It's pretty obvious that most of what Blizzard does is virtue signaling they never do anything concrete on the issues, it's been that way since forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltysquidoon View Post
    Reading 8 pages of "There couldn't be any sexual harassment in the Cosby suite because it was named after an ugly sweater and not actual rapist Bill Cosby" is pointless? You, people, realise neither you nor blizzard's defence team is going going to win any points with anyone for needlessly filling air time with this if it's shown sexual harassment occurred in the suite?
    Not one single person in this thread is making this argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Not one single person in this thread is making this argument.
    What's the point of arguing about something so mundane and irrelevant then? How and why they nicknamed the room after Cosby is just a distraction from all of the sexual harassment they covered up for almost a decade.
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  11. #1431
    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    What's the point of arguing about something so mundane and irrelevant then? How and why they nicknamed the room after Cosby is just a distraction from all of the sexual harassment they covered up for almost a decade.
    Even aside from the fact that Cosby's behavior was pretty widely known: https://ew.com/article/2016/02/19/30...-joke-carlock/

    "30 Rock co-showrunner Robert Carlock has confirmed suspicions that a joke from a 2009 episode of the satirical NBC series was meant as a reference to sexual assault allegations against Bill Cosby."

    I'm actually more curious about the imperative so many feel to try to explain it away as an innocent coincidence. How invested do you have to be in protecting the ongoing and prevailing culture of abuse of women to pretend literally thousands of years of "isolated incidents" of harassing, raping, beating, and murdering women and girls never ever adds up to an identifiable pattern? (As an example, see the post in the incel thread claiming that incels are the most abused and marginalized group in the world. So close!)
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    Until then, I honestly don't care about anything else much. Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care.
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    Yeah, I think it's fair to conclude that "Fuck the poor" "Arch-angel of Riots" is just in it with the hope of inflicting maximum harm for maximum chaos, and since they've shown no particular attachment to any guiding moral, ideological, or political principle, it seems to be for the sake of maximum fun.

  12. #1432
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Not one single person in this thread is making this argument.
    I was for a minute, but then i remembered even though the cosby suite thing is unrelated to cosbys sexual assault, if the texts are correct and possibly "hot chixx" were sent there i could see a few things becoming a bit problematic, it could be like a rockstar taking a fan backstage kind of deal going on, it just depends on the big picture but its important to be fair and know that there is no rape accusations so far, and the cosby thing had nothing to do rape- so its not even in the same ballpark as the bill cosby accusations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Oh in the case. Moss grows on the north side of trees.

    i mean if we are stating irrelevant facts I want to join.
    Well, maybe then state a fact not a myth.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  14. #1434
    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    I think it was Alex who posted the screen shot of the chat to his Facebook. Hence the mic drop comment. It's that Facebook post that's been screenshotted.
    Ah, I see - reading more more closely in the article that seems to be the case.

    I would assume it was wiped together with the rest of Alex' web-presence last year, so it might have been screenshot by a lot of people (but I doubt it was visible to all) during a long time.

  15. #1435
    Quote Originally Posted by Saltysquidoon View Post
    Going back to my greater point. Assumptions yes but well-founded ones, we're all grown-ups here (one would hope) we can all understand how implicit statement works. No one goes to the mat trying to suck oxygen away from a sexual harassment claim by quibbling over why a room was named after rapist bill cosby without a greater agenda.
    Enough with the 'bad faith' bullshit. You're just flaming here. No-one is doing what you are suggesting.

  16. #1436
    I don't care if blizzard turns out to be escaped nazis. I am still not playing that weebish final fantasy crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    What else would the room be referring to? Getting drunk and watching Ghost Dad?
    Are they stupid and bold enough to call their "handsy rapey room" after an alleged rapist? Could be, I somehow doubt it, but it could be.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  18. #1438
    I don't understand - isn't Ghostcrawler contradicting himself? In his riot post, he says the cosby suite was called that based on a fleamarket portrait. Then in his other tweet, he says it was based off of a rug??

  19. #1439
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    I am not sure why people think blizzard is "woke" from Blizzchung to how Bobby is a big GOP donor and the fact that a lot of the executives are made up of former republican administration employee including the Bush torture lady. It's pretty obvious that most of what Blizzard does is virtue signaling they never do anything concrete on the issues, it's been that way since forever.
    Blizzard wouldn't let them call people the N word so they are obviously woke.

    Oh and put a British lesbian on the cover of a game.
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  20. #1440
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Are they stupid and bold enough to call their "handsy rapey room" after an alleged rapist? Could be, I somehow doubt it, but it could be.
    Yes, and why not? They were correct in assuming there'd be no consequences then, and for another 7 years.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch-Angel of Riots View Post
    Until then, I honestly don't care about anything else much. Until then it can all burn down to the ground for all I care.
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Yeah, I think it's fair to conclude that "Fuck the poor" "Arch-angel of Riots" is just in it with the hope of inflicting maximum harm for maximum chaos, and since they've shown no particular attachment to any guiding moral, ideological, or political principle, it seems to be for the sake of maximum fun.

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