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  1. #1441
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    What's the point of arguing about something so mundane and irrelevant then? How and why they nicknamed the room after Cosby is just a distraction from all of the sexual harassment they covered up for almost a decade.
    Speaking for myself


    Thats not even what I am arguing. I'm just not willing to say everyone is at fault without some proof they knew/approved/did it. Obviously something happened. Lets have the info come out and see who is to blame and who isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Well, maybe then state a fact not a myth.
    That's because in reality, moss can grow just about anywhere. Although it is most likely to grow on the north side of trees, rocks and other surfaces, it doesn't grow there exclusively, according to Michigan State University Extension.

    https://www.reconnectwithnature.org/...row-north-side

    notice I don't say only.
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  2. #1442
    man idk it all sounds as if their hiring process is a couch casting as the first step.

    Blizzard has 4700+ employees. Are they all in two camps? Shitlords and victims?

    Was the first thing in the morning a weener to your face as a greeting for all these years?

    I don't see why I should demonize the whole company. Some socially inept man children who used to be good developers, promoted themselves to higher positions and turned out to be human turds. Sure, it sucks that many of them were/are in leadership positions, but honestly it's not them who make Blizzard who they are. It's the mass of regular employees. The UX Designers, the Visual Artists, the Developers, etc.

    So I don't get the hate against "Blizzard". Focus on the perpetrators, fire and replace them, move on.

  3. #1443
    So Ghostcrawler feigned ignorance and never chimed in about the details regarding the Cosby Suite until images of him talking about it surfaced on reddit? Then he was like "oh yes I knew it existed". Nice! Oh and then he tries to tell us he knew nothing about sexual harassment.....

    UH HUH

  4. #1444
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsarez View Post
    man idk it all sounds as if their hiring process is a couch casting as the first step.

    Blizzard has 4700+ employees. Are they all in two camps? Shitlords and victims?

    Was the first thing in the morning a weener to your face as a greeting for all these years?

    I don't see why I should demonize the whole company. Some socially inept man children who used to be good developers, promoted themselves to higher positions and turned out to be human turds. Sure, it sucks that many of them were/are in leadership positions, but honestly it's not them who make Blizzard who they are. It's the mass of regular employees. The UX Designers, the Visual Artists, the Developers, etc.

    So I don't get the hate against "Blizzard". Focus on the perpetrators, fire and replace them, move on.
    At the end of the day, if Blizzard was sold off, the employees wouldn't get the money, upper management and shareholders would.

    If that same upper management was aware of all of this horrible shit and tried to hide it from the public and their shareholders to continue to make money and save face, then you blame the company.

    You don't tie the employees, who have absolutely no power and no real stake in a company, around the main campus building as a shield and cry "don't shoot! Think of the employeeeeees!" when they are the ones being abused in the first place.

  5. #1445
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Eh I can pass on the shirtless guy (maybe I just don't know the context) but those other two are.... not good. ESPECIALLY the one about "girls will be seen with you even if you aren't holding a dollar."
    I feel this is more of a joke towards the "nerdy virgins". Especially since it was back in the day where gaming wasn't as big.

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    Yeah people are really surprised a bunch of over indulged programmers who have had nothing but utter contempt and disrespect towards customers would threat the company and Blizzcon like an opportunity to do whatever they wanted.

    Honestly I think this kind of stuff is par for the course in the entertainment industry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Right, so, your fact was actually just "moss grows on trees". Brilliant.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Also, the implication that it's much the same at other studios of the time.

    Yeah, and? That means they were all filled with misogynistic fuckwits, too, who should be facing similar scrutiny.

    The conclusion you should be drawing from those kinds of arguments is that they're all bad and should be facing legal penalties accordingly, not that this is some norm that should be accepted as just normal work conduct.
    No, the conclusion is at most be that there is a cloud of suspicion around all of them and that shall be investigated.

    Saying that all were bad is prejudicial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    I feel this is more of a joke towards the "nerdy virgins". Especially since it was back in the day where gaming wasn't as big.
    I see it as problematic on multiple levels. Sure, it's a joke towards "nerdy virgins" - but also intended to impress (and recruit) those "nerdy virgins" that they are now "rockstars" who don't have that problem.

  9. #1449
    One thing I wonder is, were these men always like this… or did it come with power and fame?
    Fairy tales are more than true–not because they tell us dragons exist, but because they tell us dragons can be beaten. -G. K. Chesterton & Neil Gaiman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    One thing I wonder is, were these men always like this… or did it come with power and fame?
    Always. The barrier to express their true selves was just removed with money, power and fame.
    You don't go from normal person to shitlord by waking up one day and saying "oh, I have money, let's be a turd now".

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    The absolute state of Jason Schreier being a bitch on Twitter because he's clearly known about these abuses for years and never reported on them.

    https://archive.is/z982y

    And for a little history lesson, he refused to report on the NeoGAF story because he didn't like the people who told him about it, even when Kotaku gave the guy a platform by doing an AMA with him.

    https://i.redd.it/8rkamx7x09e71.png

    The dude literally is a hypocritical man child with zero fucking spine when it comes to being criticized for his shit tier "journalism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    One thing I wonder is, were these men always like this… or did it come with power and fame?
    Money and fame doesn't change who you are, it simply reveals who you are. The reason these people shouldn't do these kinds of things is because it's wrong, not because they got caught. In a business setting professionals should behave as professionals.

    I think the most revealing about all of this is that some women also knew and seemed to condone this behavior, when they didn't eventually complain about it.
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  13. #1453
    https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/1421106742381924352

    "blizzard employee hid cameras in the womens bathrooms to film them on the toilet"

    Boy this is just the year Blizzard burns their rep to the ground huh?
    http://theeorzeanfrontier.blogspot.co.uk/ Neckbeard rambling about this weeaboo trash

  14. #1454
    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/1421106742381924352

    "blizzard employee hid cameras in the womens bathrooms to film them on the toilet"

    Boy this is just the year Blizzard burns their rep to the ground huh?
    I think thats more on the IT guy than Blizzard.

  15. #1455
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    I think thats more on the IT guy than Blizzard.
    Still employed by the company, but I think it's from a few years back so not (entirely) relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dope_danny View Post
    https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/1421106742381924352

    "blizzard employee hid cameras in the womens bathrooms to film them on the toilet"

    Boy this is just the year Blizzard burns their rep to the ground huh?
    Nitpick, but that's Activision. But since they're functionally the same company the lawsuit covers both.

  17. #1457
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    One thing I wonder is, were these men always like this… or did it come with power and fame?
    Money and power doesn't change a person, it just makes them more of what they already are imho.

  18. #1458
    Imagine my shock (and awe, tragicomedy often unites the two) when I sifted through this and found out that the "Cosby Suite" was an actual physical thing as opposed to a moniker for a scandal. I won't say nor read anything more because it's all very unsurprising, but I'll blindly guess Hazzikostas was involved too, he is after all keeping legal radio silence and was one of the main culprits behind the decline of WoW's quality along with the already-fired Afrasiabi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    The start is only shirt-less guys, games that aren't as good as sex.
    debatable, Rock N' Roll Racing was pretty damn good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adolecent View Post
    I'm getting infracted by an American moderator on an American topic promoting/advocating weapons on a childrens forum, what else to expect on an American forum. I'm done here and i'm going to leave you one thing to remember:
    [extremely graphic picture of dead children]
    Hope you sleep well. With the lack of empathy the majority of you show i guess that won't be a problem. BB

  19. #1459
    They are all scums obviously but Cosby wasn't found out yet in 2013 right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Biden is a creepy old dude, I will not be voting for the guy.
    ^ This is from a self-proclaimed Trump-hater who goes round vote-policing, berating and insulting other users for expressing their doubts and reservations about Joe Biden. He also urges others to end relationships and friendships just to "vote Trump out". https://ibb.co/2jRnZGC He can't seem to walk the talk himself.

  20. #1460
    Quote Originally Posted by Coolthulhu View Post
    Imagine my shock (and awe, tragicomedy often unites the two) when I sifted through this and found out that the "Cosby Suite" was an actual physical thing as opposed to a moniker for a scandal. I won't say nor read anything more because it's all very unsurprising, but I'll blindly guess Hazzikostas was involved too, he is after all keeping legal radio silence and was one of the main culprits behind the decline of WoW's quality along with the already-fired Afrasiabi.


    debatable, Rock N' Roll Racing was pretty damn good.
    Honestly this post is pretty moronic overall, not sure what you're going for with this one chief.

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