Activision-Blizzard Sued By California

[Xilurm]

Eh I can pass on the shirtless guy (maybe I just don't know the context) but those other two are.... not good. ESPECIALLY the one about "girls will be seen with you even if you aren't holding a dollar."

I feel this is more of a joke towards the "nerdy virgins". Especially since it was back in the day where gaming wasn't as big.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Yeah people are really surprised a bunch of over indulged programmers who have had nothing but utter contempt and disrespect towards customers would threat the company and Blizzcon like an opportunity to do whatever they wanted.

Honestly I think this kind of stuff is par for the course in the entertainment industry

[Mayhem]

https://www.reconnectwithnature.org/...row-north-side

notice I don't say only.

Right, so, your fact was actually just "moss grows on trees". Brilliant.

[Forogil]

Also, the implication that it's much the same at other studios of the time.

Yeah, and? That means they were all filled with misogynistic fuckwits, too, who should be facing similar scrutiny.

The conclusion you should be drawing from those kinds of arguments is that they're all bad and should be facing legal penalties accordingly, not that this is some norm that should be accepted as just normal work conduct.

No, the conclusion is at most be that there is a cloud of suspicion around all of them and that shall be investigated.

Saying that all were bad is prejudicial.

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I feel this is more of a joke towards the "nerdy virgins". Especially since it was back in the day where gaming wasn't as big.

I see it as problematic on multiple levels. Sure, it's a joke towards "nerdy virgins" - but also intended to impress (and recruit) those "nerdy virgins" that they are now "rockstars" who don't have that problem.

[Tsarez]

One thing I wonder is, were these men always like this… or did it come with power and fame?

Always. The barrier to express their true selves was just removed with money, power and fame.
You don't go from normal person to shitlord by waking up one day and saying "oh, I have money, let's be a turd now".

[Rennadrel]

The absolute state of Jason Schreier being a bitch on Twitter because he's clearly known about these abuses for years and never reported on them.

https://archive.is/z982y

And for a little history lesson, he refused to report on the NeoGAF story because he didn't like the people who told him about it, even when Kotaku gave the guy a platform by doing an AMA with him.

https://i.redd.it/8rkamx7x09e71.png

The dude literally is a hypocritical man child with zero fucking spine when it comes to being criticized for his shit tier "journalism".

[Doctor Amadeus]

One thing I wonder is, were these men always like this… or did it come with power and fame?

Money and fame doesn't change who you are, it simply reveals who you are. The reason these people shouldn't do these kinds of things is because it's wrong, not because they got caught. In a business setting professionals should behave as professionals.

I think the most revealing about all of this is that some women also knew and seemed to condone this behavior, when they didn't eventually complain about it.

[dope_danny]

https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/1421106742381924352

"blizzard employee hid cameras in the womens bathrooms to film them on the toilet"

Boy this is just the year Blizzard burns their rep to the ground huh?

[Jotaux]

https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/1421106742381924352

"blizzard employee hid cameras in the womens bathrooms to film them on the toilet"

Boy this is just the year Blizzard burns their rep to the ground huh?

I think thats more on the IT guy than Blizzard.

[Woobels]

I think thats more on the IT guy than Blizzard.

Still employed by the company, but I think it's from a few years back so not (entirely) relevant.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/waypoint/status/1421106742381924352

"blizzard employee hid cameras in the womens bathrooms to film them on the toilet"

Boy this is just the year Blizzard burns their rep to the ground huh?

Nitpick, but that's Activision. But since they're functionally the same company the lawsuit covers both.

[Coolthulhu]

Imagine my shock (and awe, tragicomedy often unites the two) when I sifted through this and found out that the "Cosby Suite" was an actual physical thing as opposed to a moniker for a scandal. I won't say nor read anything more because it's all very unsurprising, but I'll blindly guess Hazzikostas was involved too, he is after all keeping legal radio silence and was one of the main culprits behind the decline of WoW's quality along with the already-fired Afrasiabi.

The start is only shirt-less guys, games that aren't as good as sex.

debatable, Rock N' Roll Racing was pretty damn good.

[lockybalboa]

They are all scums obviously but Cosby wasn't found out yet in 2013 right?

[Woobels]

Imagine my shock (and awe, tragicomedy often unites the two) when I sifted through this and found out that the "Cosby Suite" was an actual physical thing as opposed to a moniker for a scandal. I won't say nor read anything more because it's all very unsurprising, but I'll blindly guess Hazzikostas was involved too, he is after all keeping legal radio silence and was one of the main culprits behind the decline of WoW's quality along with the already-fired Afrasiabi.


debatable, Rock N' Roll Racing was pretty damn good.

Honestly this post is pretty moronic overall, not sure what you're going for with this one chief.

[Forogil]

They are all scums obviously but Cosby wasn't found out yet in 2013 right?

There were some reports earlier, but the main reporting wasn't until 2014.
Some of the victims said they didn't know about other victims until the allegations were made public.

That's why many of us don't believe that a Cosby-reference in 2013 would mean sexual assaults to most Blizzard employees.
It could be that no-one knew at Blizzard or it could be that some knew - and had an internal joke at the rest; but I find the latter unlikely.

Kotaku reports that some employees heard references to Cosby suite and thought it was related to sexual assault; it could be that they didn't hear about the suite until late 2014 when Cosby was all over the news, perhaps as part of their preparation for Blizzcon 2014 (at about the same time) and someone suggesting a Cosby suite again.

The main issue is still the sexual assaults (and in the law suit the discrimination in terms of wages etc); the Cosby suite is just weird.

[dope_danny]

https://www.ign.com/articles/inside-...k-of-reckoning

Boy this one is just ...a lot.

[muto]

https://www.ign.com/articles/inside-...k-of-reckoning

Boy this one is just ...a lot.

Good grief. It’s literally The Office, except worse. The fact that, that pregnant woman couldn’t get time off is pretty fucked. It’s hard for whoever denied her time off to stoop much lower than that.

[Evilfish]

One thing I wonder is, were these men always like this… or did it come with power and fame?

Some of them, yeah. They probably were like this. Lots of creeps these days especially the ones who knight around for "victims". No surprise some guy who gets way too worked up by sexual assault allegations turns out to be a creep himself.

Not that women are any better. It's diabolical what women can do to other women and to men.

[Edge-]

Not that women are any better. It's diabolical what women can do to other women and to men.

Like what did they do according to the lawsuit and the stories that are coming out? Because I haven't seen anything, seems mostly like a lot of the dudes at Activision and Blizzard are were just creeps.

[Evilfish]

Like what did they do according to the lawsuit and the stories that are coming out? Because I haven't seen anything, seems mostly like a lot of the dudes at Activision and Blizzard are were just creeps.

Maybe they were, I'm not sure at least about all of them, a few are for certain. But I work in this area, where people accuse each other of diverse forms of harassment, take my word for it, or don't, women are just as bad most of the time and even worse sometimes.