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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    Most of the D2 remake models are astonishingly terrible. In general they "rouged" up the characters oto mcuh. They all look way more old and haggard and worn down than they previously did.

    The new Necro looks fine, as he was old and haggard to begin with. The new assassin and sorceress modes are also not terrible and I would deem faithful enough to the original. But everyone else is terribad.

    The Amazon looks like William Dafoe in a wig. She's about 30 years older and x10 more masculine looking than before.
    The Barb also looks way older and way less muscular definition. His new look is more "realistic" but I don't want a "realistic" barbaian, I want the D2 barbarian.
    The Paladin they "blacked". The original Paladin had a darker skin tone but very generic facial features. You could easily interpret the original D2 paladin as having been black, or arab, or latin, or a mix of ethnicity.
    The poor Druid looks like he's from a whole differne game. He went from somewhat youthful looking and very tall and thin to now being a really thicc old man.

    So yeah, the general theme is they tried to hard to age/weather the characters. All the D2 heroes besides the Necro have a very youthful appearance, you'd put them all in their 20's or 30's but the remake models all look like they are tired worn down 50 year olds.
    they all look fine to me. why do you care so much? it has nothing to do with gameplay.

  2. #62
    Because the graphics are the whole point of a remake.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by NihilSustinet View Post
    they all look fine to me. why do you care so much? it has nothing to do with gameplay.
    This is a rather silly argument. They could technically replace all the character models with pink blobs and it also wouldn't effect the gameplay. The aesthetic of the world is a fundamental part of what makes video games enjoyable.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    She's showing less skin than a Victorian woman.
    She's literally showing off her belly and she's in a push up bra are you out of your mind?

    The only way this could get more revealing would be of they tore of her pants and she's always been in pants.

    She's showing MORE skin than the armoured model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post




    To me, I don't see censorship at all as long as stuff like this makes it in the game, but I'm sure there's some diehard out there that's arguing they added a loincloth to the model so it's literally unplayable now.
    Nah-nah-nah mate we need big titty Amazon GF if even it doesn't make sense in the setting.
    Last edited by LarryFromHumanResources; 2021-07-25 at 02:02 PM.
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  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFromHumanResources View Post
    Caved and turned the Amazon into a man? Or at least allowed it to happen? I don't buy it.
    Different teams, it's that smple.

    The HotS team when it comes to that stuff is far more lax than something like the HS team, which has a slightly different artwork for Whitemane


    Then there's also that the thing where they altered jaina's artwork by covering part of her cleavage, completely replaced the succubus card with an Felhunter and so forth.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Different teams, it's that smple.

    The HotS team when it comes to that stuff is far more lax than something like the HS team, which has a slightly different artwork for Whitemane


    Then there's also that the thing where they altered jaina's artwork by covering part of her cleavage, completely replaced the succubus card with an Felhunter and so forth.
    So? Its still Blizzard at the end of the day. Don't you think if they had an issue with big booba they would've stepped in regardless of team?

    All of these niche examples mean nothing when you take a look at the overhwelming evidence against it.

    Oh they covered up Jaina? You can literally see Whitemane's underwear in HotS. The likely answer for the HS shenanigans is likely that its FAR more accesible to kids, what with it being available on ios and android.

    This is alarmism. The D2 Remastered team aren't caving in the face of pressure from SJWs they're going with their interpretation of D2's gothic setting.
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  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFromHumanResources View Post
    So? Its still Blizzard at the end of the day. Don't you think if they had an issue with big booba they would've stepped in?
    I didn't say, nor imply that.

    I said that it those things vary from team to team, nothing less or more.
    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFromHumanResources View Post
    All of these niche examples mean nothing when you take a look at the overhwelming evidence against it.
    Not sure what constitutes as "niche" examples in that regard, personally i consider the outright replacement of an existing card (Succubus) with something entirely unrelated (Felhunter) a terrible move.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    I didn't say, nor imply that.

    I said that it those things vary from team to team, nothing less or more.
    Sure, fair enough

    Not sure what constitutes as "niche" examples in that regard, personally i consider the outright replacement of an existing card (Succubus) with something entirely unrelated (Felhunter) a terrible move.
    Depends on the reason. Hearthstone is likely far more readily available for kids than something like WoW, HotS or Diablo is. It's probably for that reason.

    The game is rated seven and up and with their Disney esque trailers is pretty clear what part of their demographic is.
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  9. #69
    Guys: - We hate it when characters gET cEnSoRed but we don't care about it cuz there's porn lol!

    Also guys: - HOW DARE THEY COVER UP HER BREASTS/THIGHS/STOMACH/HIPS???? LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE!!



    I'm not buying D2 for many reasons. Characters having their skin covered up a bit is not one of said reasons. Who the fuck cares if a character shows skin or not. I can't care less even if it's a change made to a game I've played when it showed more skin.
    You cannot in good conscience worship God, the Son and the Holy Spirit if you also worship Mammon. Capitalism is inherently evil.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFromHumanResources View Post
    The game is rated seven and up and with their Disney esque trailers is pretty clear what part of their demographic is.
    Considering the card has existed for 6+ years and they also openly market a recent card as the: "First Transsexual character in Warcraft", it's not like the topic of sexuality is something they consider out of their league.

  11. #71
    Things have gone off the rails, please keep discussion on-topic folks. The current topic being discussed ain't it.

  12. #72
    Hope this garbage company goes up in flames for what they did to WC3.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post

    To me, I don't see censorship at all as long as stuff like this makes it in the game, but I'm sure there's some diehard out there that's arguing they added a loincloth to the model so it's literally unplayable now.
    Good on the diablo team to stick to making a good game and listening to fans. Well, the two teams that is. Sicne D2R is Vicarious Visions. I wonder what they're gonna do after though. There's no more games to remaster after D2 right? So the classic games team they made in 2015 and VV won't have any jobs to do. I hope that they make em fix WC3 instead of absorbing them into one of the other teams or something.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Divada View Post
    Censored it? What did they censor? I honestly have no idea, just curious.
    More clothing on amazon butt and assassin. Other minor changes.

    It's not that this one is so bad, it's that I've become hypersensitive due to other "remakes" changing things.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Maybe you should take your own advice:
    Hence why I'm not buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    Guys: - We hate it when characters gET cEnSoRed but we don't care about it cuz there's porn lol!

    Also guys: - HOW DARE THEY COVER UP HER BREASTS/THIGHS/STOMACH/HIPS???? LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE!!



    I'm not buying D2 for many reasons. Characters having their skin covered up a bit is not one of said reasons. Who the fuck cares if a character shows skin or not. I can't care less even if it's a change made to a game I've played when it showed more skin.
    Maybe you don't - good for you.

    D2 is probably the best game of all time in my opinion and perfect in almost every way. The art is very much a part of that, and I don't want to see that diminished

  16. #76
    Remember how WC3 reforged was so bad and obviously, a shameless cashgrab basically tailor-made to shit on the company's own history to the point that everyone in this thread forgot to discuss it?
    Tonight for me is a special day. I want to go outside of the house of the girl I like with a gasoline barrel and write her name on the road and set it on fire and tell her to get out too see it (is this illegal)?

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Th3Scourge View Post
    Hence why I'm not buying it.
    But you're still here arguing about it...hence, you haven't "moved on"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltysquidoon View Post
    Remember how WC3 reforged was so bad and obviously, a shameless cashgrab basically tailor-made to shit on the company's own history to the point that everyone in this thread forgot to discuss it?
    Remember how a completely different team, one known for it's stellar work on remakes, is developing D2:R?

    WC3:R was a travesty and it has been discussed exhaustibly.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakzor View Post
    This. A game just not being a 10/10 doesn't mean it was a scam. Usually it's people expecting WAY more than the devs say/show and interpret stuff different than what is said on purpose.
    Games like Pokemon or No Man's Sky for example were exactly what i expected them to be (didn't preorder NMS and only bought it way later). Pokemon just being Pokemon and No Man's Sky being a disaster at launch at obvious since they NEVER let ANYONE play before launch. They've always shown pre-made stuff and it was obvious it wouldn't be good.
    Never had problems with preordering, because i preorder when i see actual gameplay, rather than pretty render trailers. And how were MGSV and Bioshock infinite scams? I thought they were pretty well received? I remember people praising atleast Bioshock Infinite everywhere when it released.
    To be fair, with No man's sky they blatantly advertised things that were not in the final release. Multiplayer wasn't ingame on release despite being advertised multiple times and even being on the physical box cover. (Though it was covered up with a sticker)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    But you're still here arguing about it...hence, you haven't "moved on"

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    Remember how a completely different team, one known for it's stellar work on remakes, is developing D2:R?

    WC3:R was a travesty and it has been discussed exhaustibly.
    While that may be true, my faith is so low in blizzard at this point that I would not be surprised if they found another way to fuck up a remake.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Ticj View Post

    While that may be true, my faith is so low in blizzard at this point that I would not be surprised if they found another way to fuck up a remake.
    I'm just saying that the situations are not really that comparable...not that there is any guarantee that this product will be absolutely flawless.

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Th3Scourge View Post
    D2 is probably the best game of all time in my opinion and perfect in almost every way.
    So perfect it needed an expansion to fix a lot of shit.

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