I love how all these devs are “making a stand” and walking out now, instead of standing up and saying something when this crap was actually happening to these people.
Making a stand after you get in trouble doesn’t really have the same weight to it, now does it?
It’s okay though, delay our game even more to make your statement. I’m sure people won’t mind.
Scheduled weekly maintenance caught me by surprise.
"Ugh I don't care if women are getting sexually harassed and the work environment is toxic. I don't want 9.2 to be delayed because my gaming is more important than the suffering of the people making the game I'm playing!" This is basically the mindset of everyone defending Blizzard and the mindset of people who make threads like this.
That's like saying Timeless Isle is "just an extension of Jade Forest."
It's attached to the Maw "continent" but it is absolutely a new, separate zone, and a fairly sizeable one, with plenty of new assets and creatures and frankly not much shared with the Maw besides the chains connecting the zones.
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Lots of people just got major news about the company they work at. The "shock" will subside and It will calm down and they are back to work before you know it.
This entire case might be a blessing in disguise. Remove the trash and toxic shits from the company and get a better work moral and structure in the company going forward. Now with more competition, albeit temporary at best, from ffxiv. They have to stop thinking they are too big to fail and get their asses in gear and fix the issues and get the game back where its supposed to be
Look, you have to understand that it's possible to be critical and negative about the situation at Blizzard, which any decent person should be, and to want your favorite game to continue being developed at the same time. I know it might sound shocking to you, but that's just how it is. There are numerous reasons why people won't boycott WoW, and those people will want more content. It's understandable that they view unplanned hiatuses as a negative thing.
It's quite likely that a lot of people were not aware of these events. And it's also possible that these people were afraid for their job and didn't speak up. Now when the milk is spilt it's good they are showing their support.
I used to say the same thing about Blizzard to my friends who played Ubisoft games, Riot games etc. Don't be surprised when a major sexual scandal about Square Enix surfaces in a couple years. It's the same in all big corporations and around the world. In fact, in Japan it might be much worse because the society is much more traditional there and equality between men and women is much behind the US. Treating women as second class citizens is prevalent as well. It's only been like 5 years since train molesters (very popular in Japan) are even seriously being punished, and this is only just one example. Chances are the exact same shit is happening there right now, but people aren't defiant enough to talk about it loudly like in the US now.
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To address the thread topic directly:
An alternative but I'm sure unpopular view would go something like this:
People log on to their workstations tomorrow or Tuesday (or come back into the office...I don't know where they are on this), attend a team meeting in which the events of the last few days are discussed, team leaders emphasize that whatever happens in the future there will be no more frat-boy atmosphere in the development offices, and reiterates that now is an important time to cut the crap and get to work.
It could go either way but I would be very surprised if an attempt at something like the above doesn't happen this week. When an office environment is in crisis this is a not-so-unusual reaction. Cut out the "frat-boy atmosphere", cull out the worst troublemakers, you might end up with a better result than you think. Time will tell.
Given how long everyone has been out of the office during the last 18 months, now is a good time to step back, do a reset on office policies and in one sense make a fresh start.
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"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
As expected, this thread has been derailed pretty severely. Closing this.
"We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead