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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Mate, you literally know nothing.

    How do they buy the boost? I explained why they won't, but as you have proven, you ignore it, to feel smug. You are cancerous, nothing more, nothing less.
    By making a fresh account and buying TBCc for 35 bucks. Not that hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    1 item set. Wow. And phase 1? It is literally what I said, it gets replaced very fast. Jesus.

    And they aren't desperate, just tired. You are as I said finding semantics to prove your point, and ignoring the spirit. Nothing more, nothing less. Am done.
    You repeatedly stating that you're "done" only to reply again and again with even more wrong things is pretty hilarious.
    The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
    Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
    Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    I am "basing my conclusion" on years of how Bot companies operate, it is quite well documented, and if you were ever involved in any decent business, it is quite similar. You just simply don't make risky purchases like that, which can backfire massively in the way they are. As I said as well, I am not getting involved in the usual semantic bullshit arguments where people try to pick holes in individual things, rather than the spirit. It's tiring.

    Have a nice evening
    A £35 boost is a risky purchase? In what part of anything I've said have I been discussing semantics?

    You have the sincerest audacity to call other people on this forum cancerous to the game with the opinion you hold about MTX.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Farora View Post
    Paid character boost
    Paid move to classic era
    Data mined wow token for classic
    Mount

    Not sure if there are more. But in the video he shows the big impact of all of them, like dead leveling zones the day after the paid boost became available and swarms of max level bots.
    None of those are even remotely game breaking or changing for the most part.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewOU2015 View Post
    Okay? His whole entire channel is based around wow. That's how he makes income I highly doubt he quits over a cash shop.
    He did say this was his primary source of income, and he did also say he's fine if it no longer is after this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohwell View Post
    None of those are even remotely game breaking or changing for the most part.
    Except the numerous boosted bots running around the game now.

  5. #105
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    Some of you lot are weird.

    WoW needs more stuff in the cash shop not less.

    I long for the day when TBCC has a "Daily deals" section like the one showed below.

    Just replace all the icons with stuff like spell cloth, Primal nether, Primal Might, primal every thing else etc.

    How could you not want to be able to buy things, a way to Alleviate the stress, A way to feel like you are not always "Behind"

    It's such an amazing concept.


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  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Zypherz View Post
    Yes, they will spend the money on the boost; It's exactly what's happening. It's much more profitable to buy a boost and bot than it is to level a character all the way to level 60, risk getting banned along the way and then bot.
    Technically, they aren't spending money on the boost, are they?

    Aren't they just farming enough gold on retail and then using retail gold to buy blizz balance to then buy the TBC classic boost?

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Mate, you literally know nothing.

    How do they buy the boost? I explained why they won't, but as you have proven, you ignore it, to feel smug. You are cancerous, nothing more, nothing less.
    Are you some kind of comedian? No seriously.

    It's been 2 months since TBC release and the botting problem isn't getting any better, it's getting worse every single day. Level 58 boosted characters running inside Strat, 50+ level 58 rogues pickpocketing inside BRD 24/7 and lately the latest botting fad is hacking terrain to move below ground inside SlavePens and pickpocketing all mobs and opening chests.

    Do you know what all of these incidents have in common? They're all level 58 characters fully equipped with Communal gear.

    You clearly do not play TBC classic.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by User517849 View Post
    Technically, they aren't spending money on the boost, are they?

    Aren't they just farming enough gold on retail and then using retail gold to buy blizz balance to then buy the TBC classic boost?
    That's a possibility, It's probably a mix of both. It's easier to just buy a boost though.
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  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    Are you some kind of comedian? No seriously.

    It's been 2 months since TBC release and the botting problem isn't getting any better, it's getting worse every single day. Level 58 boosted characters running inside Strat, 50+ level 58 rogues pickpocketing inside BRD 24/7 and lately the latest botting fad is hacking terrain to move below ground inside SlavePens and pickpocketing all mobs and opening chests.

    Do you know what all of these incidents have in common? They're all level 58 characters fully equipped with Communal gear.

    You clearly do not play TBC classic.
    And he accuses other people of arguing for the sake of the argument. Made my day.
    The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
    Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
    Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Zypherz View Post
    That's a possibility, It's probably a mix of both. It's easier to just buy a boost though.
    It depends, though. Buying the boost means traceability through a CC (unless they're exclusively using b.net gift cards).

    It makes a lot more sense to buy it with gold. Besides, if you're botting, why wouldn't you be botting retail and classic. Bots already bot in both retail (warmode on/off, chromie time on/off) and then you can turn around and use that same gold to fund your TBC botting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragedaug View Post
    The leveling zones were dead in the original BC. I know, because I leveled a few toons in the original BC. I would occasionally see another player, but it was not constant. Not until I hit Outland, which just so happens to exactly coincide with what we see now.

    I suspect most of the players in TBC Classic played Classic Era. The people who only played one toon already have that toon leveled to 60, so they won't be in the leveling zones. The players who like playing lots of alts, already have multiple 60's, so once again, they won't be playing in the 1-58 leveling zones. It's almost like they already "boosted" themselves.

    Cash shop has got to be the worst reason to leave WoW. For the most part, it's completely cosmetic, and it's 100% voluntary, and the parts that aren't cosmetic, boosts and buying gold, were already in WoW since the beginning. The only difference is that it was a lot more dangerous and left you more susceptible to account hacking and it encouraged more bots than we already see.
    Yeah, I agree. He does mention you'd have to use "sketchy sites and risk your personal information" to buy illegal gold, but with cryptocurrency, even that idea is fairly outdated.

    Crypto is basically the perfect way to buy boosting/botting/etc without having to worry about realistically tying any actionable and personable information to you. I wouldn't be surprised if the rise of crypto actual makes buying illegal services easier because there's a much more obfuscated paper trail.

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by User517849 View Post
    It depends, though. Buying the boost means traceability through a CC (unless they're exclusively using b.net gift cards).

    It makes a lot more sense to buy it with gold. Besides, if you're botting, why wouldn't you be botting retail and classic. Bots already bot in both retail (warmode on/off, chromie time on/off) and then you can turn around and use that same gold to fund your TBC botting.
    Just comes down to efficiency really I guess. I have no idea. You could be right.
    Last edited by Zypherz; 2021-07-26 at 06:01 PM.

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by User517849 View Post
    You can't even buy 5m gold from WoW in one go.

    I think there's a limit of buying 10 or 20 tokens per week.
    As said:
    if you actually could by such a huge sum with the WoW Token without any additional account shenanigans

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewOU2015 View Post
    Okay? His whole entire channel is based around wow. That's how he makes income I highly doubt he quits over a cash shop.
    He straight up said it's likely this means he won't be able to do content creation for a living anymore and that's an acceptable risk, but that he's also planning to branch out into other games after his next couple planned WoW videos are done.
    Be seeing you guys on Bloodsail Buccaneers NA!



  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalam the Venom View Post
    Some of you lot are weird.

    WoW needs more stuff in the cash shop not less.

    I long for the day when TBCC has a "Daily deals" section like the one showed below.

    Just replace all the icons with stuff like spell cloth, Primal nether, Primal Might, primal every thing else etc.

    How could you not want to be able to buy things, a way to Alleviate the stress, A way to feel like you are not always "Behind"

    It's such an amazing concept.
    This is a silly comparison and you know it. I'd say that the real downfall of D3's AH is that the RMAH side wasn't just gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thage View Post
    He straight up said it's likely this means he won't be able to do content creation for a living anymore and that's an acceptable risk, but that he's also planning to branch out into other games after his next couple planned WoW videos are done.
    Is he really living off of YT?

    I don't think his channel is big enough for it; I could be wrong though.

    Socialblade estimates his YT earnings between 2k and 29k. Depending on his CoL, that may be survivable, but it's basically a minimum wage job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User517849 View Post
    Is he really living off of YT?

    I don't think his channel is big enough for it; I could be wrong though.
    He'd been doing well enough off it he was able to shift to it being his primary job shortly before Classic released.
    Be seeing you guys on Bloodsail Buccaneers NA!



  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    As said:
    if you actually could by such a huge sum with the WoW Token without any additional account shenanigans
    Ah, fair, I missed that disclaimer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thage View Post
    He'd been doing well enough off it he was able to shift to it being his primary job shortly before Classic released.
    Wow, that's really surprising. I didn't think it was possible considering the size of his channel. I guess I underestimate how much sponsorships matter.

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    "WoW is Dying/Dead" and "I Quit" type threads (even when the "I" in question is a streamer) don't tend to produce much in the way of constructive discussion or debate. Closing this.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." - Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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