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  1. #841
    Quote Originally Posted by neik View Post
    Advice I was given as a sprout on skipping beast tribes entirely, is utterly incorrect. I found that beast tribe reward emotes are truly amazing. I'm definitely getting them all.

    https://youtu.be/S9NVOcJAkx0?t=2013
    You should definitely skip the ARR beast tribes, their rewards aren't worth it and chances are you will get most of them accidently should you discover PotD while spamming main scenario for leveling alts during the Moogle Treasurehunt event (Edit: I remembered that one wrong, I bought the mounts there last time). From HW onward the beast tribes are decent XP (for their leveling ranges) and have some cool stuff.
    Last edited by Felis igneus; 2021-10-17 at 08:48 PM.
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

  2. #842
    Us: "We want Necromancer as a class in WoW."
    Blizz: "No! You got Death Knights and did we not just release a new Demon Hunter class like three expansions ago? Stop asking us for things, we're too busy harassing women to work on that kind of crap"

    Us: "We want Necromancer as a job in FF14"
    SE: "Okay! But we'll just rename it Reaper and make it look cool. Also, here's another healer job, now with 40% more guns"

    This is what so good about FFXIV!
    Allies Race Wishlist: ALLIANCE: Sylvar and Saberon HORDE: Venthyr and Vrykul
    New Class Wishlist: Blademaster, Tinker, Necromancer, Bard

  3. #843
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    That's...pretty dumb, honestly.
    Reaper doesn't really scream necromancer to me.

  4. #844
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    Honestly, FF14 is just living in the hype train. It is fresh and is not bad, but it is merely a shadow of WoW, even at its current shit state.

    However, that is not very fair to say, FF is a different game.

  5. #845
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    That's...pretty dumb, honestly.
    What's even more dumb is that Blizz thinks censoring their game will fix all that problems they're facing in rl. Yeah, changing paintings and cutting out dirty jokes will defiantly fix what's going on in the company and bring back all those cancelled subs.
    Allies Race Wishlist: ALLIANCE: Sylvar and Saberon HORDE: Venthyr and Vrykul
    New Class Wishlist: Blademaster, Tinker, Necromancer, Bard

  6. #846
    Quote Originally Posted by shise View Post
    Honestly, FF14 is just living in the hype train. It is fresh and is not bad, but it is merely a shadow of WoW, even at its current shit state.

    However, that is not very fair to say, FF is a different game.
    Fresh?? The game is 8 years old man

  7. #847
    Quote Originally Posted by The BrewCity Monk View Post
    Us: "We want Necromancer as a class in WoW."
    Blizz: "No! You got Death Knights and did we not just release a new Demon Hunter class like three expansions ago? Stop asking us for things, we're too busy harassing women to work on that kind of crap"

    Us: "We want Necromancer as a job in FF14"
    SE: "Okay! But we'll just rename it Reaper and make it look cool. Also, here's another healer job, now with 40% more guns"

    This is what so good about FFXIV!
    Reaper is not a necromancer that some people wanted. Funny but its more of a DK.
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  8. #848
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    Reaper is not a necromancer that some people wanted. Funny but its more of a DK.
    Thought dark knight was more DK..

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    Quote Originally Posted by neik View Post
    Enjoy Devilyaki

    By the way, kudos to Zepla the video production is outstanding, along with the glamours presented.
    Haven’t started yet, hooked on soloing old stuff and doing the other fun stuff I have missed . One day tho ty

  9. #849
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    Lol how is reaper anything close to resembling a necromancer? It has a shade thing, that's about it. I get that you're trying to be funny making up scenarios in your head, but they can't be any further from the truth.

    While summoners are pretty firm in the FF universe, I can't even recall a game where something even resembling a necromancer was even present in the mythos of FF. It would be an odd addition TBH, and would feel pretty out of place.

    DRK and DK aside from sharing a similar aesthetic with some themes of magic are still pretty different as well.

    What makes the game good though is that most of the story beats are good, and just like WoW, they have pretty stellar raids/trials. It would be foolish to compare FF raids to WoW raids though because to be perfectly honest, both games do raids really well, albeit approach it slightly differently. It's truly an apples to oranges comparison, at least in my opinion.

    I think the best thing FF14 does aside from it's story is that everything is neatly packed onto a single character, which is something WoW desperately needs to pick up on at some point. Getting gear for multiple roles is fine, but repeating certain story elements, reputations, or expansion systems on every role you want to play just makes me less likely to try something else at this point. Pretty sure for example that any of the expansion features, reputations or questlines were just linked to your main character that people would just...try more classes as opposed to seeing a giant mountain they have to climb before they start having fun with their character.

    Gear progression is fun IMO while everything else is generally really enjoyable, albeit only the first time. FF14 and a few other MMOs nail this aspect really well.

  10. #850
    Necromancer and reaper are nothing alike. In fact the whole pet class thing is pretty much not very feasible in FFXIV today, as they even toned down Summoner to the point that next expansion their pets will be even more passive. I don't mind through, the whole idea of a super versatile pet class is just a balancing nightmare.

    A little summoner anecdote: Yesterday I saw a titan egi in Delubrum Reginae and everyone was utterly confused because the egi kept wetting itself and it's yellow puddle looked like an AoE marker. The concept of a tank-pet is so dead that the sight was practically new to most people.
    Last edited by Felis igneus; 2021-10-19 at 02:03 PM.
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

  11. #851
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tojara View Post
    I can't even recall a game where something even resembling a necromancer was even present in the mythos of FF.
    Tactics Ogre had a necromancer job (and it's improved version, Lich) which functioned as expected. Necros & Liches were also great at farming gear and money because when you recruited an undead minion, you could interact with its inventory and thus remove anything it had equipped, using it for your own guys or vendoring it for money. It was possible to acquire powerful gear this way long before it was sold in stores.

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    Also, Summoners in FFX were sorta necromancers, as in lore they interacted with the spirits of the dead. They performed the Sending ritual (in FFX, when people die they hang around as spirits, still bound to the mortal realm. If they aren't sent to the afterlife soon enough, they will turn into monsters). Also the actual summons that a summoner uses (called Aeons) is the spirit of someone who sacrificed themself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis igneus View Post
    A little summoner anecdote: Yesterday I saw a titan egi in Delubrum Reginae and everyone was utterly confused because the egi kept wetting itself and it's yellow puddle looked like an AoE marker. The concept of a tank-pet is so dead that the sight was practically new to most people.
    People still move out of ninja AoEs too (the swirling beige sandy one).

  12. #852
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post

    People still move out of ninja AoEs too (the swirling beige sandy one).
    That one looks quite different though and usually I'm more concerned to have a ninja in the group and not seeing it in dungeons..
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

  13. #853
    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    Castrum Meridianum/Praetorium as a sprout tank is confusing still because sprout, but the party is more likely in the mood to wait for you instead for a dps.
    but usually community is chill and waits for you nonetheless; i was tank first and dps on next char and both times able to experience most bosses.

    the mood killer are those overlong cinematics, not the party behaviour
    I agree on all accounts. The MSQ roulettes are kind of killer, atleast praetorium has gaius memes.

    I never got much into tanking in wow cause its so high pressure. But in FF I can just wander around learning and perhaps someone will give me some guidance as to where i'm supposed to leading the party.

  14. #854
    Quote Originally Posted by The BrewCity Monk View Post
    Us: "We want Necromancer as a class in WoW."
    Blizz: "No! You got Death Knights and did we not just release a new Demon Hunter class like three expansions ago? Stop asking us for things, we're too busy harassing women to work on that kind of crap"

    Us: "We want Necromancer as a job in FF14"
    SE: "Okay! But we'll just rename it Reaper and make it look cool. Also, here's another healer job, now with 40% more guns"

    This is what so good about FFXIV!
    Reaper and Sages are awesome but I wouldn't call the Reaper a Necromancer. Not really in any way beyond Necromancers also summon servants.

  15. #855
    Yeah reaper's more like answering the call for a necromancer class with a new DK dps spec.

  16. #856
    FF14 respects women so much they haven't even turned them into fruit.

    Also, the story is extremely good.

  17. #857
    A lot of game and endgame options to choose from. I mean A LOT.

    Consider not listening to "another wow streamer trying out ff14 and why it sucks", opinions. Doesn't matter, I suggest people exploring the game by themselves without quitting at level 12 becuase wow hysteria still running in your veins.

    Relax and enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martymark View Post
    FF14 respects women so much they haven't even turned them into fruit.

    Also, the story is extremely good.
    solved the Brick Mountain event; that cutscene is definitel Not Safe For Blizzard.

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