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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    This is what a childish post looks like:
    @Gadzooks may have misinterpreted what the poster was saying, but even then the post he was reacting to was pathetic.

    'Oh they didn't speak up before but are now! What virtue signallers!' No, they were probably afraid of speaking up due to a lack of accountability and presence of retaliation/adverse consequence to speaking up. Furthermore, it's obvious that HR complaints were also being made privately.

    So yeah, whilst @Gadzooks may have overreacted, some of the insensitive bile on display in this forum at the moment is just mad.

  2. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    Why are you creating a strawman arguement? Where did the user you quoted say or even remotely imply that?
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by La View Post
    Did that douchebag really imply that people complaining about an even longer content drought means they just don't care about abuse or some shit? The fuck are they on
    Given how Ion blamed the customers for why his game is so shitty, it seems that they might have an ego problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Hazzikostas
    The problems with Torghast were not easily picked up in the beta because players on the beta were there to simply check out Torghast and didn't have the specific goals in mind that come in a live environment.
    Blizzard also did this song and dance with the artifacts and the RNGendaries during the Legion beta. Players - Preach, the forums everyone - called out the problems with them months before release. Blizzard ignored what their testers were saying and released those systems in shitty states, and the turned around said "uh, we didn't know that they were bad! Why didn't our players tell us?". Same with Azerite for BFA, and Chorghast for Shadowlands.

    Can you imagine other companies saying "it's not our fault the washing machine we sold to our customers was broken! Our unpaid testers didn't tell us! (even though they did. For several months before release).

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  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by mrgreenthump View Post
    Yeah was going to post about this. We are paying for a service that they are providing and he makes it like we are part of the problem when waiting for value out of the money we are giving them. Now if they came out and said "Sorry, we are a mess. WoW is now free to play for the next 3 months." He might have a valid point, but as is.. It's pure bullshit.
    He's fucking right though. You value game content more than the welfare of people.

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by Clbull View Post
    Who would you sooner trust, the California Department of Fair Employment & Housing, or a sleazy CEO who lost a sexual harassment suit from 15 years ago and who pockets nine figure bonuses while his subsidiary companies go through layoffs?
    Oh, man. I'm pretty sure a LOT of the posters in this thread would sooner trust the CEO of ABK than someone accusing a man of sexual abuse.

  6. #246
    Glad to see the 1000x signed post from employees.

    I've had the usual moral dilemma between keep playing and unsub in protest until they make it right. Well, I just bought a token to not leave my guild in a lurch and they have a month for the appropriate heads to start rolling. I know they couldn't care less about my sub money. I liked Hazel's statement and the realization that there are a lot of hard working and good employees that earn my sub each month.

    I just want the leadership at Blizzard to stop giving me so many excuses to leave. They're making being addicted to a game too hard. I just need a place to chill and heal my buds and not feel like crap about it. It's insane that's such a big thing to ask. Heads need to roll. I know where I'd start.

  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    He's fucking right though. You value game content more than the welfare of people.
    really is amazing the take away from that post is "he's blaming the gamers!" uuuuh no? if you feel slighted by that statement then you probably deserve to feel that way.

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Given how Ion blamed the customers for why his game is so shitty, it seems that they might have an ego problem.



    Blizzard also did this song and dance with the artifacts and the RNGendaries during the Legion beta. Players - Preach, the forums everyone - called out the problems with them months before release. Blizzard ignored what their testers were saying and released those systems in shitty states, and the turned around said "uh, we didn't know that they were bad! Why didn't our players tell us?". Same with Azerite for BFA, and Chorghast for Shadowlands.

    Can you imagine other companies saying "it's not our fault the washing machine we sold to our customers was broken! Our unpaid testers didn't tell us! (even though they did. For several months before release).
    At this point, paying a WoW sub is purchasing a license to bitch.
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    I don't know who this fucking Alex Klontzas is, but fuck that guy, WE ARE PAYING SUBSCRIPTIONS! This is NOT A FREE GAME.

    They need to sort this asap n get back on track not "oh, but you really should wait until 2023 for patch 9.2!" fuck that shit! Their company will go down if they don't clean house.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    If you think the culture is something only within blizzard and people going “i don’t care give me my product” doesn't contribute to higher ups ignoring issues so they can get said product out you are a fool.
    THIER culture. THEIR problem. Their culture at their workplace with their employees has absolutely nothing to do with me in any way, shape, or form. What does have something to do with me, is them admitting they are no longer developing a product I purchased, and until recently paid to access, IS my business, and i choose to take it elsewhere. I had already made this decision before this all blew up, based on the lackluster quality of their product, however, them trying to shift blame to their paying customers who have literally NOTHING to do with their internal complement issues, is the last straw for quite a few people.

    When I first saw this come to light, I thought "meh, nothing will happen, nothing will change, they will hide for a few weeks then announce something new and shiny and everyone will forget and move on". However, based on how they chose to respond, and the amazing response from over 1000 past and present staff, has confirmed I am unlikely to be back any time soon.
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  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    He's fucking right though. You value game content more than the welfare of people.
    A.K values his job and his title more then he values his co-workers.

  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    He's fucking right though. You value game content more than the welfare of people.
    Continuing to support them in any way makes you complicit, sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    I don't know who this fucking Alex Klontzas is, but fuck that guy, WE ARE PAYING SUBSCRIPTIONS! This is NOT A FREE GAME.

    They need to sort this asap n get back on track not "oh, but you really should wait until 2023 for patch 9.2!" fuck that shit! Their company will go down if they don't clean house.
    Unsub. Stop supporting their shitty policies and practices. You don't need that next patch.
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  13. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by World Peace View Post
    Continuing to support them in any way makes you complicit, sorry!
    that, is a bit unfair, this is on the state to regulate them, not the consumers. however if your main issue is you not getting more content for your video game then I'm sorry but you're not helping anyone, at all.

  14. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by darklogrus View Post
    A.K values his job and his title more then he values his co-workers.
    Can I ask how you've come to this conclusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by World Peace View Post
    Continuing to support them in any way makes you complicit, sorry!
    a) I'm not a paying customer.

    b) I will support employees who want better for their colleagues. Thanks. Welfare over Entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by World Peace View Post
    Unsub. Stop supporting their shitty policies and practices. You don't need that next patch.
    A sub is for game content, not policies n practices, you are shifting blame to the player.

    Are you just another contrarian who just hangs around forums for games he stopped playing long ago? That's pathetic.

  16. #256
    People are allowed to be upset about the delay. Brushing off the concerns over another delay after starving your base for so long is a super shitty move. That said, players also need to realize your voice should be CANCELED SUBS. Gut their income streams and show them you won't tolerate this kind of crap. If a company can't keep their shit together for game stability take away their support. Don't care about these internal issues? You do now. When companies allow this type of behavior it leads to issues. ActiBlizz failed their employees AND they failed you.
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  17. #257
    I don’t know what to do. I don’t have all the answers. I can tell you, almost no work is being done on World of Warcraft right now while this obscenity plays out. And that benefits nobody - not the players, not the developers, not the shareholders.
    Say hello to 9.1 lasting 7 to 8 months, and a two patch expansion with the last patch (9.2) probably lasting a year+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Oh, man. I'm pretty sure a LOT of the posters in this thread would sooner trust the CEO of ABK than someone accusing a man of sexual abuse.
    This isn't a mere disgruntled ex-employee throwing around sexual abuse accusations. This is the result of a two year investigation instigated by a state-level government agency. They would know better than to push through a lawsuit without merit or evidence.

    Many of the current and former Blizzard employees who have spoken out in condemnation of Activision Blizzard's internal company culture are doing so now because the cat's out of the bag. A lone employee blowing the whistle would have likely been sacked and blackballed from the whole industry.

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by World Peace View Post
    Continuing to support them in any way makes you complicit, sorry!
    If you boycotted everything from every company that's ever done something shady, or had any relations with China, you would have...very few things in your house.

    Blaming the common customer isn't really fair.
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  20. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    He's fucking right though. You value game content more than the welfare of people.
    I hold value for money in the products i pay for higher than internal employment and legal issues, yes. Without even the smallest amount of doubt.
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