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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    1). To Elune, she did nothing wrong. It’s a matter of perspective. To her, letting her followers die painlessly, to go on and save reality and Ardenweald, with the ability to rest peacefully or be reborn is not a bad thing.
    All done without any consent of those affected most. But it's a Blizzard story so at least that part is congruent.

  2. #262
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    My opinion:

    I really hear her say "in the wake of tragedy"
    For me it means: After the burning of the tree, Elune guided the souls from there to Ardenweald.
    She had no part in killing the elves.

    Okay maybe she could have intervened, I don't know

  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    1). But it doesn’t result in them losing faith.
    You know about all those Night elves that got ressurected by the Forsaken because they felt...forsaken by Elune?
    You know that Tyrande did essentially demand the power of the Nightwarrior from Elune?
    Tyrande Whisperwind says: Elune! Your people loved you! Yet you watched, distant and aloof, as they died in torment!
    Tyrande Whisperwind says: I served you for millennia. But tonight, I do not come as a maiden, mother, or even priestess.
    Tyrande Whisperwind says: Now, I will serve you only if you grant me justice!
    Sure sounds super faithful and not at all like an ultimatum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    2). At this point you are arguing something while agreeing with me. I’ve stated, twice now, that it takes away the significance of the issue. You then post a reply that comes off as an argument while stating the same thing I already stated but with different words.
    The point is that the loss significance will likely be used to let a character off the hook who certainly does not deserve this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eapoe View Post
    Of course people would be punished in life for transgressions and deeds
    The plot right now is driving towards redeeming someone that comitted genocide.
    It's pretty obvious what i mean, this isn't about not stopping any active threat, this is about that people should just let someone go scott free despite serious wrongdoings because they'll suffer in the Afterlife.

    Stopping Deathwing or Garrosh wasn't "seeking justice" first and foremost, it's self defense, those are two seperate things.

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  5. #265
    I just love this abeslutely 13 IQ story they are telling. So Ellune let it happend. to help her sister. the genocide of the night elfs. so lets just forgive sylvanas.

  6. #266
    Quote Originally Posted by wargone View Post
    I just love this abeslutely 13 IQ story they are telling. So Ellune let it happend. to help her sister. the genocide of the night elfs. so lets just forgive sylvanas.
    yeah, from this comment its clear its your understanding thats problem, not the story... the story is so simple yet people still misunderstand it ffs...
    is this what people who never read anything more complicated than picturebook think like?!
    Last edited by Lolites; 2021-07-30 at 06:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    yeah, from this comment its clear its your understanding thats problem, not the story... the story is so simple yet people still misunderstand it ffs...
    is this what people who never read anything more complicated than picturebook think like?!
    So you are the one true interpreter of what Danuser & co. meant with this atrocious piece of writing. Please educate us unwashed peasants about what this is all about, according to your state-of-the-art brain.

  8. #268
    So did uhhh... Elune ask Sylvanas to burn down the tree or something? What if Sylvanas just decided not to burn down the tree and went with her initial plans of occupying Teldrassil; does that mean that Elune wasn't really planning to help the Winter Queen?

    I know it probably seems like nitpicking, but this seems really silly.
    If you are particularly bold, you could use a Shiny Ditto. Do keep in mind though, this will infuriate your opponents due to Ditto's beauty. Please do not use Shiny Ditto. You have been warned.

  9. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    yeah, from this comment its clear its your understanding thats problem, not the story... the story is so simple yet people still misunderstand it ffs...
    is this what people who never read anything more complicated than picturebook think like?!
    It not that i dont story, i am just not a fan of the story being told.
    i strongly dislike what happend to teldrassil, and night elf people, for what was pretty much a "oh look how shocking, major change will happend now"
    that pretty much ones more boiled down to garrosh 2.0. With as few concerense.

    but this is somewhat more insulting. So she let it happend to help her sister... GREAT, that makes up for the story impact of the night elf. And, so since it is by Ellunes will, It somehow okay? And grand epic story telling? And not just someone going " why was Luke on a randomass planet drinking blue space milk? cus fuck you that why"
    So, blizzard is 100% going to use this " oh it was ellunes will" so, lets forgive sylvanas, because, she is also just innocent, she was either compelled to do it. or she did it, just because she did not know better, or it was just to get her soul, Or because She realised the" engine of death is broken, so she just so smart and will save us"
    - So I think i get the story, i just dont like this whole, Sylvanas was right, and it was by ellunes will. and ones more, the hordes Sins are forgotten because "look a buttefly"

  10. #270
    Now that it is official pandering to the derange doesn't pay off I wonder if we'll start getting sexy goddesses again?

  11. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    The majority of them didn't feel that, as the novel describes it as elune sending them sleep letting them pass in peace, you know instead of actually intervening.
    I was just going to say this, as I read up on it as well. It describes one priestess falling into blissful slumber, as well as everyone around her. They didn't feel a thing. Elune spared them the pain.
    Karma always has the last laugh.

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