By Our Hand - Chains of Domination Cinematic

[Indigenously Abled]

Bruh asking for consistent, self-contained storytelling where important information is shown rather than told isn't "needing to be hand-held", lol.

Sorry, spoon-fed, not hand-held. It's a tough distinction to make, like the distinction between willful genocide and accidental damnation.

[NoiseTank13]

Mate, either react to what was said or admit defeat.

I have no interest in your bullshit, wow, way to try to win an argument let's call names.
European people who do not know how fed-ex operates can go and get fucked, right, they are all racist and sexist and probably anti-semitic as well.
Grow up.

I ain't your mate, mate.

Try being less hostile next time.

[Sluvs]

If you are an eternal being, and death is only your more step into each individual soul's journey, it makes a tiny amount of sense. That being said...

Elune's perspective was not fleshed out at all. When a similar reveal happned in Heavensward, thye contextualized almost immediately. Also, even if it was properly contextualized, she still took a decision for an entire race of people.

I mean, I knew blizzard would handle this genocide badly, but cmon.

[Dellis0991]

Are they seriously trying to shift the fucking blame away from Sylvanas!?

Shadowlands is free! is coming.

[Garymorilix]

I ain't your mate, mate.

Try being less hostile next time.

Yea, whatever.
It just shows that you were perfectly aware of how much I de-constructed your bullshit and you were so lost for words you instead tried to attack me personally.

Go ahead, I don't care. I know you lost this, you do too. Cya.

[Elegiac]

Sorry, spoon-fed

It isn't spoonfeeding, either. It's adhering to pretty basic narrative principles so the plot doesn't end up a contrived and contradictory mess.

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If you are an eternal being, and death is only your more step into each individual soul's journey, it makes a tiny amount of sense. That being said...

Elune's perspective was not fleshed out at all. When a similar reveal happned in Heavensward, thye contextualized almost immediately. Also, even if it was properly contextualized, she still took a decision for an entire race of people.

I mean, I knew blizzard would handle this genocide badly, but cmon.

Hydaelyn: "I've done some fairly questionable things in my time as a goddess..."
Elune: "Hold my moonglow."

[NoiseTank13]

Yea, whatever.
It just shows that you were perfectly aware of how much I de-constructed your bullshit and you were so lost for words you instead tried to attack me personally.

Go ahead, I don't care. I know you lost this, you do too. Cya.

'Ma, ma! I won an internet argument! Ain't ya proud?'

Whoo boy, that's really pathetic. But hey, whatever keeps your fireplace warm.

[Sluvs]

Have to say though, if I was a night elf and I was killed in teldrassil because some space bitch decided to send me to her family business I would probably come back in service of sylvannas too.

[NoiseTank13]

Have to say though, if I was a night elf and I was killed in teldrassil because some space bitch decided to send me to her family business I would probably come back in service of sylvannas too.

Imagine getting torched alive, feeling every inch of your body boil, blister and turn to ash, and then be told the Goddess you loved did it on a purely transactional basis. Why anyone would be an Elune worshipper after this is beyond me.

[dess]

Lol everyone is so unhinged about the story in a video game like its going to changed their lives for the better. Just too funny.

[Hyrja]

Why is everyone so angry about everything?
Just sit back, relax, and let everything play out.

[PenguinChan]

From what I'm getting at - Elune did not coax nor force the events of the world tree burning. Instead, she was going to force the souls to Ardenweald when they were going to be split up; this obviously didn't happen because of the maw. How did she not know any of this was going on when she could hear her sister's cries and torments? This is immediately contradictory.

Then, gives Tyrande a choice that she already made before and is visibly shaking at the end in anger. What was the point of this cinematic then? To show Elune is ignorant and not all knowing - that she has horrible decision making and a sense of twisted humor? The writing is very questionable, as always.

[Yarathir]

As per usual, it appears MMO-C is one of the few places still doing damage control for Blizzard and coping like their lives depend in it.

Now you're just trolling.
You're literally claiming this story is a result of Blizzard being evil while also denying that you're makin such a connection.
Common now, you can't have it both way.
Secondly you claimed there is no justice system in Warcraft. I told you there was an entire book about it. Your reply is "merp merp Arthas bal bla". How about "Oops, you're right, I didn't think of that"?
Yikes...

???

Maybe up your reading comprehension if you literally still don't grasp it.

And you're free to concede if you don't know a retort.

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Moreover, one of the few canonical instances where we actually get something resembling a non-vengeance based alternative:



#celestialapproved

Man Genn should've totally just gone to the justice system to find 'renewal' after Sylvanas killed his son.

Vengeance heckin bad, I give it 5 TLOU2s out of 5.

[beelgers]

This writing isn't great. Just not for the reasons a lot of people are saying (that Elune allowed the NE's to burn). The writing isn't great because of this thread - it doesn't make a lot of sense to a non lore nerd. The choice I think Elune makes here is to send them to Ardenweald (she thought) instead of being wisps. I don't know how the majority of players are supposed to understand that though. Hence poor writing.

[Cosmic Janitor]

lol

The above is all I should say, but my mind is already racing with the moronic implications and plotholes here. For one, even if the maw hadn't claimed the nelves, how would she have ensured that they actually get to ardenweald anyway? The sorting isn't up to her and nelfs aren't part of the rebirth cycle.

Will Blizzard ever stop bending over the nelfs?

[Goldielocks]

Another cinematic unlisted. Pathetic lmao

[Myradin]

>start up WoW
>make a character
>"ok brave adventurer now kill this gnoll that is doing a lot of bad stuff!"
>accept
>"WAIT NOO WHAT ARE YOU DOING VENGEANCE IS NOT THE WAY JUST LIKE.. RUN TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM!!!"

Exactly. So much of this game is the player slaughtering entire settlements of creatures because they stole someone's pumpkin.

But someone who wanted to make the whole universe (Except themselves apparently) serve a big blue man, killing untold numbers, sending them to super hell, and forging many of them into weapons? Nah that's fine cause vengeance is bad.

Not to derail this thread, but the interment camps after WC2 were actually some of the most morally upstanding actions in Warcraft. We don't normally provide enemies food and shelter, we put them in the ground.

[Ivarr]

Why is everyone so angry about everything?
Just sit back, relax, and let everything play out.

Things aren't playing out. As far as the Sylvanas story is concerned, the can just keeps being kicked down the road without resolution.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Imagine getting torched alive, feeling every inch of your body boil, blister and turn to ash, and then be told the Goddess you loved did it on a purely transactional basis. Why anyone would be an Elune worshipper after this is beyond me.

The majority of them didn't feel that, as the novel describes it as elune sending them sleep letting them pass in peace, you know intead of actually intervening.

[DarkAmbient]

What in the actual fuck is Blizzard doing with this story, holy shit.