A Message from the World of Warcraft Team

[Th3Scourge]

You should read the legal document that started this. It's about a lot more than sexual harassment.

https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/07/22/ac..._complaint.pdf

I have, there's an awful lot of the Socialist Republic of California in the legal document. I wholeheartedly agree they should root out the bad apples, but there's also a lot of conjecture and loose claims (i.e half of gamers in America are female - we know this data to include mobile gaming, facebook games etc where women make up a sizable majority of users. I am yet to see any data to back up claims that online gaming, console gaming, PC gaming is split evenly between male and females

They go on with the standard crap about the percentage of women working for the company. i really don't care, and neither should anyone else. I couldn't care if it was 80% women, the percentage is really irrelevant, and a lot of this is more looking like the State of California doing what the State of California tries to push ideologically.

The criminal elements should be handled by a court, as I suspect they will. The marxist ideological elements should be entirely removed from the document altogether

[Trbn]

Uh....what? Video game design has nothing to do with IT.

so game developing companies are not IT companies? KEKW

or you are trying to say hrs, project managers and core programmers using other set of skills in blizzard?

[TheRevenantHero]

so game developing companies are not IT companies? KEKW

or you are trying to say hrs, project managers and core programmers using other set of skills in blizzard?

Once again, a lot of the people having a bad time at Blizzard are probably the devs and artists. Sure, some of them are probably part of the IT department but just making a general statement that anyone working at Blizzard can get an IT job anywhere else is just not a correct thing to say.

[BrintoSFJ]

bowed to the chinese communist regime when hong kong is an individual entity separate from china

Blizzard bowed to Israel and banned people in EU servers when they tried to host a protest in support of palestine, blizzard also bowed to Spain and banned players from Catalone and players who supported Catalone's independence and tried to host online protest in WoW. Somehow you don't mention these incidents. Is it because Israel and Spain are US and EU allies? Hypocrite much?

[DingDongKing]

Blizzard bowed to Israel and banned people in EU servers when they tried to host a protest in support of palestine, blizzard also bowed to Spain and banned players from Catalone and players who supported Catalone's independence and tried to host online protest in WoW. Somehow you don't mention these incidents. Is it because Israel and Spain are US and EU allies? Hypocrite much?

Did they? I wasn’t aware of this. If so, Blizzars can take a flying fuck as far as my custom is concerned. Haven’t been a paying customer for ages, won’t be again. Share links please. Want to see information.

[Yarathir]

Once again, a lot of the people having a bad time at Blizzard are probably the devs and artists. Sure, some of them are probably part of the IT department but just making a general statement that anyone working at Blizzard can get an IT job anywhere else is just not a correct thing to say.

Those people are already paid peanuts.

But you're right, they got nowhere else to go- it's sad that Blizzard is the literal only game development company in the world.

[Beuargh]

They're not changing the fantasy elements of the game. All they're going to do is remove Bridenbrecker and Afrasiabi from the game. The end.

why removing bridenbrad? what is wrong with him?

[Saltysquidoon]

I have, there's an awful lot of the Socialist Republic of California in the legal document. I wholeheartedly agree they should root out the bad apples, but there's also a lot of conjecture and loose claims (i.e half of gamers in America are female - we know this data to include mobile gaming, facebook games etc where women make up a sizable majority of users. I am yet to see any data to back up claims that online gaming, console gaming, PC gaming is split evenly between male and females

That argument would have some weight, if blizzard didn't make mobile games. Beyond that, I don't think anyone who knows anything about the industry would seriously suggest women make up over 50% of the 'core gamer demographic'.
While I agree the introduction is frivolous and irrelevant to the suit, it is also frivolous and irrelevant so there is no merit in focusing on it. It's a couple of paragraphs in an introduction to a SoC it's not the focus of the suit, it's not even the focus of the SoC.

The focus is and should be on the unequal restitution and promotion given to women and minorities and the sexual harassment that blizzard has done everything short of openly admitting at this point.

[Th3Scourge]

That argument would have some weight, if blizzard didn't make mobile games. Beyond that, I don't think anyone who knows anything about the industry would seriously suggest women make up over 50% of the 'core gamer demographic'.
While I agree the introduction is frivolous and irrelevant to the suit, it is also frivolous and irrelevant so there is no merit in focusing on it. It's a couple of paragraphs in an introduction to a SoC it's not the focus of the suit, it's not even the focus of the SoC.

The focus is and should be on the unequal restitution and promotion given to women and minorities and the sexual harassment that blizzard has done everything short of openly admitting at this point.

The focus is and should only on the criminal acts involved. Nothing more. The entire introduction is a framing device by the State of California, who uses mafia tactics to push their DIE ideology.

[DingDongKing]

why removing bridenbrad? what is wrong with him?

Only the references to Rob, the one who left Bluzzard recently. Not his brother.

[Bloomer]

Took them more than a year to remove Afrasiabi references ingame (despite knowing what he did and why he left) but literal hours to change Kael'thas VA because of false, unproven accusations
If this doesn't prove to you that they only care about their image and nothing else, then I don't know what will.

[Saltysquidoon]

The focus is and should only on the criminal acts involved. Nothing more. The entire introduction is a framing device by the State of California, who uses mafia tactics to push their DIE ideology.

It's a civil suit (because apparently in California corporate regulation is done by civil suit, im sure lobbying had nothing to do with that) it's not a criminal case.

[Yarathir]

Took them more than a year to remove Afrasiabi references ingame (despite knowing what he did and why he left) but literal hours to change Kael'thas VA because of false, unproven accusations
If this doesn't prove to you that they only care about their image and nothing else, then I don't know what will.

Everything they are just reads like a robotic PR stunt. At some point, you gotta wonder what it'll take to really wake them up and realize that prebaked PR mumbo-jumbo won't save their hides.

Or maybe I'm wrong and the playerbase is gullible enough to fall for it if they just add more LGBT stuff to the merch shop. Who knows.

[Bloomer]

Everything they are just reads like a robotic PR stunt. At some point, you gotta wonder what it'll take to really wake them up and realize that prebaked PR mumbo-jumbo won't save their hides.

Or maybe I'm wrong and the playerbase is gullible enough to fall for it if they just add more LGBT stuff to the merch shop. Who knows.

More LGBT stuff always helps in calming down the angry twitter warriors, so expect 300% more wokeness from Blizzard in the upcoming weeks/months.

[Yarathir]

More LGBT stuff always helps in calming down the angry twitter warriors, so expect 300% more wokeness from Blizzard in the upcoming weeks/months.

For sure. They'll add more Pride pins to the store and turn more NPCs in WoW black with one hand while the other is groping a co-worker and everything will be considered fixed- or so they think.

I really hope nobody falls for this shit, but I've no doubt some will.

[Bloomer]

For sure. They'll add more Pride pins to the store and turn more NPCs in WoW black with one hand while the other is groping a co-worker and everything will be considered fixed- or so they think.

I really hope nobody falls for this shit, but I've no doubt some will.

A leaked image of JAB in the upcoming Blizzconline



This will definitely make everyone happy and make all their problems disappear!

[Th3Scourge]

It's a civil suit (because apparently in California corporate regulation is done by civil suit, im sure lobbying had nothing to do with that) it's not a criminal case.

That California for you. As shitty as Blizzard has been, I do agree with their stance against the state itself

[Kumorii]

Took them more than a year to remove Afrasiabi references ingame (despite knowing what he did and why he left) but literal hours to change Kael'thas VA because of false, unproven accusations
If this doesn't prove to you that they only care about their image and nothing else, then I don't know what will.

Just assume all companies just care about their image.

[Yarathir]

A leaked image of JAB in the upcoming Blizzconline



This will definitely make everyone happy and make all their problems disappear!

Holy shit, I spat out my drink. Thanks for that one.

[Buffbringer]

What exactly is woke about removing references to Alex Afrasiabi? I get being tired of seeing woke shit everywhere you look but this isn't that. They're removing references to an abusive individual. It's not taking away significant dev time. It's just changing some words in some quests and some NPC names.

"we also want to take immediate action in Azeroth to remove references that are not appropriate for our world"

Where did you read these changes are only about Afrasiabi? Because the way i read it, they're changing things that "might be offensive" and turn wow into a safe space.

I hope i'm wrong, but i think this isn't just about removing Afrasiabi references.