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  1. #621
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivarr View Post
    Only the correlation was being pointed to. That you're jumping to what you think is its cause is on you.
    what correlation? where's the causation? just saying these things is not in and of themselves proof of anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    so, first you fall for the obvious propaganda of thinking any corporation cares about any position they take beyond the assumption it will bump up sales, as is what you do under capitalism. and then you think that, and that alone is why western games are crap? like, this is beyond childish.

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    yeah cuz one character being trans or whatever is the sole reason why WoW sucks. do you people ever listen to yourselves?
    Well, they care enough to where i see the devs on twitter being obvious far left ideologues. So all i see from you is trying to sweep it under the rug and pretend there isn't a problem, like all you lefties try and do.

  3. #623
    Quote Originally Posted by Nimin View Post
    Technically it's ideology who's the death of creativity, because the moment your start putting up fences and banning stuff "you can't do or say" because they go against the dogma then you automatically limit yourself and thus end up creating a shittier product than someone else who is free.
    This, really. No reason why having more people that aren't white or male working on something has to be the death of creativity. It's the ideologies that are bound with laser-focusing on hiring specific groups over others.

  4. #624
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Well, they care enough to where i see the devs on twitter being obvious far left ideologues. So all i see from you is trying to sweep it under the rug and pretend there isn't a problem, like all you lefties try and do.
    oh no the horror of people with opinions different from you, in a country where that's their god given right. like I could ask for any sort of evidence to back these claims up but you and I know that doesn't exist. this is just you falling into whatever comfort zone where you can switch your brain off and fire a few talking points and feel better about yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluvs View Post
    when Afrasiabi himself did not come forward and said he was innocent.
    In all fairness, silence doesn't automatically imply guilt, and may just be at the recommendation of legal counsel. ProJared is a notable recent example of this. So I wouldn't take it as a huge indicator on its own in either direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Have you played any western game recently? Huge backlash to almost all of them because they're just bad, buggy and/or unfinished all while all these companies say diversity and inclusion is paramount to the company
    While there's certainly been a correlation between declining game quality and increasingly-zealous fervor for diversity within the games industry over the past several years, I'm not sold on this being the cause of games being buggy messes, particularly with the "We'll release a buggy product and patch it later because it's more profitable" model that companies have been increasingly utilizing, and increased size of staff on larger titles potentially creating a "Too many cooks in the kitchen" situation. The larger in scope something becomes, the easier it becomes to screw up. Also why open-world games seem to be unable to shed their buggy repitoire.

  6. #626
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Have you played any western game recently? Huge backlash to almost all of them because they're just bad, buggy and/or unfinished all while all these companies say diversity and inclusion is paramount to the company
    Well, there's obviously subjectivity in how good a game is. I'd argue proof requires showing their profits decreasing. Even then, it's a pretty far fetched argument to suggest it is at all linked to increased diversity and inclusion as opposed to the evolution of the gaming market in last few decades.

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    In California the law AB 979 is requiring public traded corp to have "diverse" people on the board. Merit doesn't matter.

  8. #628
    Quote Originally Posted by Straga21 View Post
    But don't you see you bigot? the fact that Dark souls now removed the male/female option and it has body type a and b was the greatest invention of our time. Also the people who created these changes could not make their own game that is successful so they have to remake games that weren't SJW cancer and put the cancer in it themselves.
    Oh god, don't remind me that.

    Type A and Type B. Despite the models clearly swapping between male and female. Jesus.

  9. #629
    Quote Originally Posted by TrollHunter3000 View Post
    Well, there's obviously subjectivity in how good a game is. I'd argue proof requires showing their profits decreasing. Even then, it's a pretty far fetched argument to suggest it is at all linked to increased diversity and inclusion as opposed to the evolution of the gaming market in last few decades.
    which is the obvious answer, wow, capitalism working as intended, a company sees a market, and tries to tap it. really for a bunch of people who I assume hate the idea of socialism or whatever leftist ideology out there sure do hate it when western capitalism does it's thing.
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  10. #630
    Quote Originally Posted by Straga21 View Post
    Yep, and they did just that. Check Disney's response where they say that if a writer comes to them with a story where the main characters are white and the inclusivity comes from supporting characters they pass on them. And they are proud of that. Or how most of the new Marvel shit has SJW writers that have not once opened a comic book, whilst nerd that spent all their lives reading them have no chance to ever get a job like that cause they are the wrong skin color ( white) or god forbid they are straight and male.
    lmao you actually think the writers for MCU haven't read the comics lmao.

    Holy fuck do you actually believe this shit? Go look at recent disney movies and let me know there aren't any white lead characters in them lmao

  11. #631
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    so, first you fall for the obvious propaganda of thinking any corporation cares about any position they take beyond the assumption it will bump up sales, as is what you do under capitalism. and then you think that, and that alone is why western games are crap? like, this is beyond childish.

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    yeah cuz one character being trans or whatever is the sole reason why WoW sucks. do you people ever listen to yourselves?
    Why are you pulling a strawman on me? What does my reply have to do with trans people? I gave you an example of a game that is objectively in decline.

  12. #632
    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    "United States Securities and Exchange Commission’s Division of Enforcement"

    So, basically this guy got paid to sit on his ass and do nothing?
    I guess Stephanie could be a guy.

  13. #633
    Quote Originally Posted by xdunpealx View Post
    In California the law AB 979 is requiring public traded corp to have "diverse" people on the board. Merit doesn't matter.
    So you believe there aren't any females that have the merit to hold those roles?

    Pretty sexist.

  14. #634
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    none of you seem to really grasp that it's not "inclusivity" that kills creativity, it's capitalism, it's the desire to acquire more money and for as little cost as possible. like you cannot tell me inclusivity is why some Blizzard employees are paid so little they have to skip meals.
    Right, as opposed to.... nothing, because no other system on Earth other than capitalism fostered creativity to such heights over the years.
    The fact that sometimes the system is abused doesn't make it any less than the best we ever had.

  15. #635
    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    Why are you pulling a strawman on me? What does my reply have to do with trans people? I gave you an example of a game that is objectively in decline.
    I'm sorry am I supposed to read your mind? where just saying the name of a game means anything on it's own? stop being lazy.

  16. #636
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    which is the obvious answer, wow, capitalism working as intended, a company sees a market, and tries to tap it. really for a bunch of people who I assume hate the idea of socialism or whatever leftist ideology out there sure do hate it when western capitalism does it's thing.
    The best part is when people want to pretend diversity and inclusion is ruining their movies and all this forced "SJW shit" in movies like the MCU ones make them shit. While those movies are making a billion dollars over and over

  17. #637
    Quote Originally Posted by Nimin View Post
    Right, as opposed to.... nothing, because no other system on Earth other than capitalism fostered creativity to such heights over the years.
    is this supposed to be sarcasm?

    The fact that sometimes the system is abused doesn't make it any less than the best we ever had
    sometimes meaning literally all the time.

  18. #638
    dont say anything: he's guilty
    defend yourself: he's guilty, otherwise he wouldnt even acknowledge these baseless accusations

    There is simply no winning with twatter snowflakes, other than meticulously documenting every waking moment of your life so you can slap them wit hthe proverbial receipts

  19. #639
    Quote Originally Posted by TrollHunter3000 View Post
    lmao you actually think the writers for MCU haven't read the comics lmao.

    Holy fuck do you actually believe this shit? Go look at recent disney movies and let me know there aren't any white lead characters in them lmao
    There was literally a Marvel writer (don't remember her name) who said in an interview that she had no idea who Mephisto was, and in a later one she said that she could never get into comics cause it was hard for her to know which panel she was supposed to look at. And I'm talking about the series that are going on right now.
    The steps were quite noticeable when they started the path down the woke lane.
    Captain Marvel-> this movie is not made for white males, if you don't like it don't watch it statement. the first steps. Then the classic moronic, unnecessary, out of place female empowerment scene in Engame. All the way to Captain BLM and the winter soldier.

  20. #640
    Quote Originally Posted by Nimin View Post
    Right, as opposed to.... nothing, because no other system on Earth other than capitalism fostered creativity to such heights over the years.
    The fact that sometimes the system is abused doesn't make it any less than the best we ever had.
    I mean, we don't even have true capitalism. It's factually gotten better as we moved away from true capitalism. The further we've moved from it, the better things have gotten.

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